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[Erati]

@Cucs

I love the power of hindsight as well, its pretty incredible already knowing what happened then looking back and figuring out how to not arrive at the current present.

Aftermath gets a pass for their use bc their GL was the first to request a ceasefire of an unpolicable tactic so we will wash away all their abusers and the community will act like they never did it because AM gives out some uncontested mobs.

Got it.

No one even cares that the conversation about halting this tactic was pretty recent and after the petition had already been filed. It would have gone a long way to come to us directly with their claim, threaten to petition if we didnt stop THEN tried to get us to agree but that's not how AM rolls ( hats off to the lawyers )

This was a ruse all along to get some logs of the two GLs talking about this ( knowing Breaken wouldnt agree bc you cant police ) all while the petition sat. Cannot be more slimey tbh and even if Breaken said 'sure, we will do what we can' that petition would have still been active and more than likely result in the same raid suspension.

Hippos always gonna crit.

[khanable]

Originally Posted by Erati [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

@Cucs

I love the power of hindsight as well, its pretty incredible already knowing what happened then looking back and figuring out how to not arrive at the current present.

Aftermath gets a pass for their use bc their GL was the first to request a ceasefire of an unpolicable tactic so we will wash away all their abusers and the community will act like they never did it because AM gives out some uncontested mobs.

Got it.

No one even cares that the conversation about halting this tactic was pretty recent and after the petition had already been filed. It would have gone a long way to come to us directly with their claim, threaten to petition if we didnt stop THEN tried to get us to agree but that's not how AM rolls ( hats off to the lawyers )

This was a ruse all along to get some logs of the two GLs talking about this ( knowing Breaken wouldnt agree bc you cant police ) all while the petition sat. Cannot be more slimey tbh and even if Breaken said 'sure, we will do what we can' that petition would have still been active and more than likely result in the same raid suspension.

Hippos always gonna crit.

To expand on my grow a pair comment - this isn't hindsight, this is leadership 101.

No one is giving AM a pass, stop trying so fucking hard to be a victim. The cockblock on the agreement to not do it was you guys - not AM. And this "we can't trust them so well maintain a shit raid scene" is a fucking lame dick excuse made by betas who don't let their girlfriends go out with their girlfriends because they "can't know for sure they won't fuck someone else".

[Erati]

Originally Posted by khanable [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

No one is giving AM a pass, stop trying so fucking hard to be a victim. The cockblock on the agreement to not do it was you guys - not AM.

Your sig is a remarkable depiction of your posting today.

[mefdinkins]

Originally Posted by khanable [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

And this "we can't trust them so well maintain a shit raid scene" is a fucking lame dick excuse

Was Lia awarded a Hoshkar staff during the terms of the VP agreement?

[khanable]

Originally Posted by Erati [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Your sig is a remarkable depiction of your posting today.

Slow as fuck at work since we're in hypercare so I can shitpost all day!

Originally Posted by mefdinkins [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Was Lia awarded a Hoshkar staff during the terms of the VP agreement?

What are you even talking about?

Rustle made it clear they would bounce on the agreement if we couldn't get an answer from you guild. After several weeks they got no answer so they left. Then the agreement was immediately put back together once your guild noticed they needed to actually do things.

What's the problem here? What sort of retarded mental gymnastics are you trying to do?

[Erati]

Originally Posted by khanable [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Rustle made it clear they would bounce on the agreement if we couldn't get an answer from you guild. After several weeks they got no answer so they left. Then the agreement was immediately put back together once your guild noticed they needed to actually do things.

What's the problem here? What sort of retarded mental gymnastics are you trying to do?

Glossing over the fact that the original agreement was broken by Rustle when you guys wanted a slot not joined with CSG...This again is further evidence why rotations/player agreements are subject to fail bc you have to chase down all these skype paper trails.

Im sure you guys have 'your side' of events and we have ours which becomes this cesspool of skype idiocy that we tried to end with Raid Discussion public agreements but was ignored

Oh well.

[khanable]

Originally Posted by Erati [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Glossing over the fact that the original agreement was broken by Rustle when you guys wanted a slot not joined with CSG...This again is further evidence why rotations/player agreements are subject to fail bc you have to chase down all these skype paper trails.

Im sure you guys have 'your side' of events and we have ours which becomes this cesspool of skype idiocy that we tried to end with Raid Discussion public agreements but was ignored

Oh well.

No, there is the correct version of events and your incorrect version of events. Gets made it clear the agreement was in jeopardy because you ignored him. Then you act like a bunch of victims when it falls apart due to lack of any answer on your part. Emphasis on any answer - you outright ignored them.

I like how you're still pointing fingers. Maybe you can get Breaken to go drop a passive aggressive comment on Rustle's guild thread now.

[Erati]

Originally Posted by khanable [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

No, there is the correct version of events and your incorrect version of events.

Originally Posted by Erati [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Im sure you guys have 'your side' of events and we have ours which becomes this cesspool of skype idiocy that we tried to end with Raid Discussion public agreements but was ignored

Exactly my point lol

[mefdinkins]

Originally Posted by khanable [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

No, there is the correct version of events and your incorrect version of events.

So you're saying it's insane to mistrust guilds because all guilds will always follow their word and keep their promises. Unless, there is some sort of grey area, like if Awakened takes a little too long to listen to respond to you. Then it is Awakened's fault and they are pointing the finger or playing a victim for acknowledging that you broke an agreement?

All I am saying is that levels of trust between guilds can influence the likelihood of an agreement and you're saying that's bullshit and that you're always right and have a full understanding of the events. I wasn't even talking about when Rustle broke the first VP agreement, I am referring to when (as far as I know) Rustle broke the 2nd VP agreement by taking a hosh staff.

I really don't even give a shit but I would assume that a former member of BDA, Rampage, and Rustle would at least have some sort of perspective as to the frivolity of the raid scene and show some sort of understanding instead of just lashing out at people and calling them pieces of shit. Or maybe you're so narcissistic that your view of reasonableness, fairness and great leadership all only comes from your individual perspective as seen by your previous signature saying fuck detoxx and now you saying fuck breaken.

[BallzDeep]

Originally Posted by khanable [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

No, there is the correct version of events and your incorrect version of events. Gets made it clear the agreement was in jeopardy because you ignored him. Then you act like a bunch of victims when it falls apart due to lack of any answer on your part. Emphasis on any answer - you outright ignored them.

I like how you're still pointing fingers. Maybe you can get Breaken to go drop a passive aggressive comment on Rustle's guild thread now.

Your quoting Getsome as a good leader when the guy up and left his guild high and dry quite a few times. You obviously don't know what's good for you and what's shit.