Some Questions About the UN and Federation

[gundumbwing]

Only thing I know is I've got a Federal Corvette. Keep staring at those walls while i stare into the abyss of a black hole at an obscure corner of an unknown galaxy.

Nerds.

[quido]

TMO's period of dominance was about 2 years - not 5. TMO pretty quickly fell apart after staff outlawed VP train wars and its core largely quit. I feel like that was early 2014, but I'm not sure now. TMO rose to dominance in late 2011 / early 2012.

I think now about how TMO was and how the staff allowed them to be, and then I consider Seal Team and their willingness to give up competing on lots of stuff, and their willingness to subject themselves to the rules created in the UN (in which the Federation has made numerous attempts to stack votes in their favor, including trying to sign up a friendly guild behind their back that didn't even want to join), and it makes me think that a lot of raiders don't know how bad they could have had it. I've never seen a top guild so reasonable and willing to compromise, so willing to quickly concede when they know they screwed up (instead of lawyerquesting everything), and to ask for reasonable concessions when another guild/force is in the wrong. Couple that with the Federation and how they fight (lawyerquest) tooth and nail when they are clearly in the wrong, present embarrassing ignorance of fundamental game mechanics when attempting to defend their shenanigans, and seem more interested in getting Seal Team in trouble than actually improving the raiding landscape - and I'm surprised that Seal Team is willing to cooperate at all.

[Fammaden]

Originally Posted by quido [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I think now about how TMO was and how the staff allowed them to be, and then I consider Seal Team and their willingness to give up competing on lots of stuff, and their willingness to subject themselves to the rules created in the UN (in which the Federation has made numerous attempts to stack votes in their favor, including trying to sign up a friendly guild behind their back that didn't even want to join), and it makes me think that a lot of raiders don't know how bad they could have had it. I've never seen a top guild so reasonable and willing to compromise, so willing to quickly concede when they know they screwed up (instead of lawyerquesting everything), and to ask for reasonable concessions when another guild/force is in the wrong. Couple that with the Federation and how they fight (lawyerquest) tooth and nail when they are clearly in the wrong, present embarrassing ignorance of fundamental game mechanics when attempting to defend their shenanigans, and seem more interested in getting Seal Team in trouble than actually improving the raiding landscape - and I'm surprised that Seal Team is willing to cooperate at all.

This is utter nonsense. Someone JUST quoted the stat that ST has had 11 of the 16 total raid petitions. I struggle to recall more than one or two concessions they've made since the teal merger vs. the ones they've forced on Fed which seem to be one a week at this point in Fear. There's only one guild in the UN who are lawyerquest pros, you're right on one thing the rest of the guilds are complete newbs to that facet of P99 raid scenes and it shows.

[gbros]

Originally Posted by Fammaden [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

This is utter nonsense. Someone JUST quoted the stat that ST has had 11 of the 16 total raid petitions. I struggle to recall more than one or two concessions they've made since the teal merger vs. the ones they've forced on Fed which seem to be one a week at this point in Fear. There's only one guild in the UN who are lawyerquest pros, you're right on one thing the rest of the guilds are complete newbs to that facet of P99 raid scenes and it shows.

You know, anyone can just go in the green UN discord and observe...

Just looking it over, seems like you are right though, this "Federation" is worse at lawyerquest than at actual raiding. Hard to believe, but true. It seems like they lose most cases, on either side, just like they do on competitive dragons.

[quido]

Originally Posted by Fammaden [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

This is utter nonsense. Someone JUST quoted the stat that ST has had 11 of the 16 total raid petitions. I struggle to recall more than one or two concessions they've made since the teal merger vs. the ones they've forced on Fed which seem to be one a week at this point in Fear. There's only one guild in the UN who are lawyerquest pros, you're right on one thing the rest of the guilds are complete newbs to that facet of P99 raid scenes and it shows.

So? ST fucks up less than the Federation.