[Serious] Lets talk Top raiding guilds and their behavior

[Fammaden]

Power corrupts.

[Croco]

Originally Posted by Fammaden [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Power corrupts.

No, power reveals. If you were already corrupt it will reveal that corruption. The corrupt guilds are on time out.

[Jorgam]

Kittens are corrupt. I recall Dooce attempting to hostile takeover another guild they were aligned with very clearly. This whole, we're just the nice guys here minding our own business act that Kittens is trying to front is absurd.

Why did you get Incubo suspended btw, nice guys?

[xdrcfrx]

Originally Posted by Jorgam [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Why did you get Incubo suspended btw, nice guys?

Possibly it was the giant train of kos mobs he brought with him to west exit?

Victim blaming is classic toxic behavior. This is why you're banned.

Sorry you were banned.

[Jorgam]

Originally Posted by xdrcfrx [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Possibly it was the giant train of kos mobs he brought with him to west exit?

Victim blaming is classic toxic behavior. This is why you're banned.

Sorry you were banned.

If it was an accident, why didn't you guys just send some tells, have a few chuckles and move on with your lives like the anecdotal account of the recent Fear raids you had? I mean, you're not the toxic and ridiculous sorts that would petition people for an accident or mistake in order to secure concessions and free loot, right?

[xdrcfrx]

Originally Posted by Jorgam [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

If it was an accident, why didn't you guys just send some tells, have a few chuckles and move on with your lives like the anecdotal account of the recent Fear raids you had? I mean, you're not the toxic and ridiculous sorts that would petition people for an accident or mistake in order to secure concessions and free loot, right?

it wasn't an accident, because he knew or should have known that he had many many mobs on him.

Also other than the last golem race we did against AG (grats guys! that was a close one!) we haven't been in fear recently. Might be thinking of someone else?

[Jorgam]

Originally Posted by xdrcfrx [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

it wasn't an accident, because he knew or should have known that he had many many mobs on him.

Also other than the last golem race we did against AG (grats guys! that was a close one!) we haven't been in fear recently. Might be thinking of someone else?

Now you're laying onto him what you think he should have known, which is to say, you don't know if it was an accident or not. I would venture that it likely was because as a high end raider you know that training on purpose will net you a fine ban and there are not that many high end raiders who intentionally train raids with that consequence hanging out there.

And it seems that here in this thread there is mention of being in Fear quite recently per MaCtastic and that a mistaken train was pretty much laughed off and no one was petitioned.

https://www.project1999.com/forums/s...=370103&page=2

[pogs4ever]

Originally Posted by Jorgam [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

If it was an accident, why didn't you guys just send some tells, have a few chuckles and move on with your lives like the anecdotal account of the recent Fear raids you had? I mean, you're not the toxic and ridiculous sorts that would petition people for an accident or mistake in order to secure concessions and free loot, right?

Hi Nishoba,

Purpyl here. Happy to clear some things up for you.

AG/F's defense was that Incubo went against raiders leaders orders and therefore they should not be subject to raid suspension.

Here is your teams defense [verbatim from your team's defense papers]:

Incubo: Is it Safe to run out?
Furors: I would take a TL; I think hub is going to be dirty
Incubo: Nope, nah, I'm going.

Your leadership left the GM's no choice but to suspend Incubo with that defense that incubo did it on purpose and against the raid leaders orders.

[Jorgam]

Originally Posted by pogs4ever [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Hi Nishoba,

Purpyl here. Happy to clear some things up for you.

AG/F's defense was that Incubo went against raiders leaders orders and therefore they should not be subject to raid suspension.

Here is your teams defense [verbatim from your team's defense papers]:

Incubo: Is it Safe to run out?
Furors: I would take a TL; I think hub is going to be dirty
Incubo: Nope, nah, I'm going.

Your leadership left the GM's no choice but to suspend Incubo with that defense that incubo did it on purpose and against the raid leaders orders.

Hi Purpyl. Thanks for shedding light on this. I admit I didn't know of that particular detail. I guess that I have to agree that he dun goofed. But I do believe there was a valiant attempt to make it right by both FR and AG which was declined by Kittens all around. What went on with that?

If things have changed over there since Dooce, great. It just seems that things are not as clear and clean RE Kittens as everyone is trying to portray it. The mud splatters on all things in ToV.

[feniin]

Originally Posted by Jorgam [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Kittens are corrupt. I recall Dooce attempting to hostile takeover another guild they were aligned with very clearly. This whole, we're just the nice guys here minding our own business act that Kittens is trying to front is absurd.

Why did you get Incubo suspended btw, nice guys?

Who hurt you?