Enchanter OP impact poll

[magnetaress]

Poll should be:

How do you remember charm?

• Unreliable and rarely used.
• Used regularly and Enchanters always soloed.
• Bush played an Enchanter in 1999-2001

[Jibartik]

Originally Posted by magnetaress [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

How do you remember charm?

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[DMN]

Originally Posted by cd288 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I mean what’s the point in crying about an in classic aspect of the class that the P99 devs don’t have the ability to fix?

More to the point, enchanters aren't the only class with channeling, nor the only ones who rely on it.

I don't recall having interrupt issues on my enchanter in classic, but I do recall being married to color flux. Flux and mesmerize never left my spell bar on any condition. if channeling checks become worse, enchanters will jut all run with 2 stuns, one always being flux. Everyone else with channeling gets fucked, though, enchanters will be just fine.

[cd288]

Originally Posted by DMN [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

More to the point, enchanters aren't the only class with channeling, nor the only ones who rely on it.

I don't recall having interrupt issues on my enchanter in classic, but I do recall being married to color flux. Flux and mesmerize never left my spell bar on any condition. if channeling checks become worse, enchanters will jut all run with 2 stuns, one always being flux. Everyone else with channeling gets fucked, though, enchanters will be just fine.

Yeah that’s a fair point. I do think it’s been confirmed channeling is different on P99 and when I first joined I do remember being surprised that I could cast so well through hits. However you’re right that Ench is the only caster who really has an efficient tool kit to save itself at higher levels of mobs are beating on it and channeling is harder.

[Izmael]

I think the channeling, and generally, the combat / magic mechanics on P99 are very well balanced, considering this is 2021.

All kinds of gameplay are possible on P99 - grouping, soloing, duoing, raiding, half-afk killing a mob every 30 minutes while working, etc.

This way, everyone can find a way that suits their RL needs. Given how small the classic EQ community is, restricting some of these gameplays would inevitably lead to shrinking population of the servers. R&N are well aware of it, and this is probably the #1 reason for the non-classic adjustments they implemented.

The last thing everyone would want here is a dying population like on Red (other reasons, citing for the sake of outcome analogy). Dying population is also a vicious circle - newcomers are turned off by the fact they zone into an empty Crushbone or something. They log off and forget about P99 until further notice. Not cool.

At this point R&N have something that works and if I were them I wouldn't implement anything drastic that would potentially hurt the pop. Something like nerfing casters is incredibly drastic and is unlikely to happen IMO.

[Jimjam]

Rolled an sk on green recently, mobs can push you further than the All Blacks scrum at level 11 and your character just laughs it off and resumes concentration.

Huge nerf required.

[cd288]

Originally Posted by Jimjam [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Rolled an sk on green recently, mobs can push you further than the All Blacks scrum at level 11 and your character just laughs it off and resumes concentration.

Huge nerf required.

It’s 2021, I think you mean RSA’s scrum

[TripSin]

Originally Posted by DMN [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

More to the point, enchanters aren't the only class with channeling, nor the only ones who rely on it.

I don't recall having interrupt issues on my enchanter in classic, but I do recall being married to color flux. Flux and mesmerize never left my spell bar on any condition. if channeling checks become worse, enchanters will jut all run with 2 stuns, one always being flux. Everyone else with channeling gets fucked, though, enchanters will be just fine.

Yup, I almost always have color flux and mesmerize loaded unless going up against stun immune mobs like giants. Imagine them nerfing channeling and consequently nerfing all the non-enchanter casters. OP would need to be put on suicide watch [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

[Jimjam]

Originally Posted by cd288 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

It’s 2021, I think you mean RSA’s scrum

Hah! Fair play! Maybe we’re on to something here? If NZ can get their boys back in their 20th Century form channelling will return to 20th century standards?

[azxten]

I'm convinced there are two core issues. Channeling which makes all soloing too successful and mob MR scaling or its impact on resists of all magic spells.

These two issues lead to easy non classic soloing and overpowered groups at lower levels and higher levels separately. As channeling success drastically improves mob MR was going up resulting in more resists for all CC spells.

There is some kind of very unique mob MR data from classic that will never be recovered. This MR is mentioned repeatedly in era posts and many mentions of which mobs had higher MR. Probably all undead had higher MR. Dwarves are mentioned oddly enough which impacts Velious some.

The other Enchanter problems are real but trivial by comparison to these two. The argument that Enchanters would be just fine with reduced channeling is laughable.

All casters should be nerfed by channeling fix. EQ was a social group focused game and the two core issues mentioned are why this is mostly missing on P99. It's why when groups do exist they pull larger camps than existed on live like in HHK. Everyone who casts a spell is overpowered and many mobs are underpowered. Probably planar mobs are all missing a plus 100 MR which is why no one charmed them and in era posts say it's only possible to mez them working as a team with debuffs etc even for trash mobs.