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Old 07-11-2011, 02:13 PM
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I never played it. My son played it.. a lot... He started out on EQ with me on Drinal. Then the first progression servers came out and I jumped over to one of them. He played a fair while on EQ but then decided to try WoW as his friends were playing it.
Personally, I could never see myself getting into it due to the monster types and names. I grew up playing AD&D (on paper) and so EQ was a great match as they had all of the AD&D type monsters in it. I have no interest in playing WoW and can say with confidence that I never will. If I felt like playing a different game, I'd go back to EQ2 or wait for EQ Next.
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Old 07-11-2011, 02:49 PM
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but I am not talking raids here, I am talking your run of the mill every day 5 man dungeon runs, be it regular or heroic, guild groups, pick up groups, you name it. Some people just have problems following orders, paying attention, or playing their character with a hint of intelligence. Those are the WoW players I grew tired of dealing with.
I still believe this has to do with the leadership structure and who is in charge and how well they can take charge without pissing others off/annoying people. You can't get loyalty and drive unless your followers like and/or respect you.

Since the tank is the default leader in anything 5 man in wow, a tank with good leadership skills usually means a successful run.
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Old 07-11-2011, 02:53 PM
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Since the tank is the default leader in anything 5 man in wow, a tank with good leadership skills usually means a successful run.
It definitely doesn't hurt to cover a class-role in a leadership position. As far as I can remember my guild leaders have been -

Qharma - Wizard
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Old 07-11-2011, 02:57 PM
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I still believe this has to do with the leadership structure and who is in charge and how well they can take charge without pissing others off/annoying people. You can't get loyalty and drive unless your followers like and/or respect you.

Since the tank is the default leader in anything 5 man in wow, a tank with good leadership skills usually means a successful run.
Conversely you get the Druid in all caster gear with no armor or hp that joins and thinks bear form makes him qualified to queue as a tank.
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Old 07-11-2011, 03:55 PM
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Alawen - Wizard
Is this a non-p99 Alawen?
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Old 07-11-2011, 03:58 PM
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Is this a non-p99 Alawen?
No, i actually am so far removed already I completely forgot the dudes name that became GL of Fusion. Alawen is a druid though, i remember now.
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Old 07-11-2011, 04:06 PM
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I never bought it, never installed it, never played it once, despite my brother trying to sell me on it.
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Old 07-11-2011, 04:22 PM
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I never bought it, never installed it, never played it once, despite my brother trying to sell me on it.
This man has played less WoW than you, Savok!
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Old 07-11-2011, 04:52 PM
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Played WoW from it's start on and off again until a little after Cataclysm was released.

When it came out I thought it was a great game. It was and still is an extremely polished game. (EQ would at times frustrate me with the number of broken quests). Good content PvP was balanced was pretty balanced for a PVE game.

The game became kind of unplayable at a lot of points because of all the work done to dumb down the game and the resulting juveinelle player base.

The cost of repairs became so miniscule that it wasn't really a penalty anymore and the lack of necessity to group or develop skills to level from 1 to max created a player base that was anti-social, greedy, and totally inept at playing their high level characters.

I've played several MMOs - EQ2, WoW, Vanguard, Star Trek Online, Rift, Warhammer Online, and a few more and I have always thought that EQ pre-GoD was the best experience. This might be biased by it being my first graphical MMO.

WoW was pretty good early on and for part of Lich King.

Vanguard wasn't bad but was barren and was unfortunately released prematurely.

Rift was fun but I'm not really into the story and don't have the time for it.
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Old 07-11-2011, 04:58 PM
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The game became kind of unplayable at a lot of points because of all the work done to dumb down the game and the resulting juveinelle player base.

I've played several MMOs - EQ2, WoW, Vanguard, Star Trek Online, Rift, Warhammer Online, and a few more and I have always thought that EQ pre-GoD was the best experience. This might be biased by it being my first graphical MMO.

WoW was pretty good early on and for part of Lich King.
I absolutely agree. EQ destroyed itself while WoW turned its playerbase into needy morons. Maybe it just revealed what most of them were from the start - dunno.

But all I know is the reason I can't play WoW or seriously play on an emulated WoW server is because the community is horrible.
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