Game Mechanics: Make Quillmane Classic Again

[Croco]

Originally Posted by Gustoo [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

This thread gives me great joy. Hunt him if he’s worth the trouble. Get lucky or try hard.

10 kills and zero cloaks is really so bad that I don’t believe you though. Got it on the first time I ever killed him on live in velious era, but maybe it’s just lucky.

Believe it. Many reports from many guilds of clearing the entire zone with bards for hours, 6+ hours, seeing like 3 spawns, and zero cloaks. This needs to be reversed/changed. It's NOT classic currently, or even remotely close.

[loramin]

Originally Posted by Croco [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Believe it. Many reports from many guilds of clearing the entire zone with bards for hours, 6+ hours, seeing like 3 spawns, and zero cloaks. This needs to be reversed/changed. It's NOT classic currently, or even remotely close.

Evidence? If Quillmane is really dropping too few cloaks, all it takes is proof to get the devs to fix it.

[Croco]

Originally Posted by loramin [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Evidence? If Quillmane is really dropping too few cloaks, all it takes is proof to get the devs to fix it.

It's anecdotal evidence from various people in all the top guilds that have been farming for cloaks since the change. It's nearly impossible to get Q to spawn let alone to get a cloak drop.

Also that's hilarious that you think devs will just fix something given evidence. There are plenty of active threads in the bug forum that suggest otherwise.

[Sarvok]

Perhaps the way in which QM spawns is more "Classic" but the drop rate of the cloak is NOT classic. Even dating back on Allakhazam:

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don't be disapointed if you get the leggings man, 5 times out of 10 he drops them instead of the cloak

Dating back to 2001 even cloak on Live dropped 50% of the time... What they did was drop the rate when it was "easier" to camp before to outweigh people getting them so easily.. but now that they changed the way in which it spawns, they didn't change the drop rate to be better reflective of true classic.. It's now impossible to get vs what it actually was on Live.

[nilbog]

The drop rate of the cloak vs the leggings was slightly off. I mean, it wasn't off by much, but likely exacerbated the issue of overall rarity when combined with fewer kills.

That part has been reevaluated and the change will be in the next update.

As far as the spawning method, I do not see anything wrong with it, and aligns with the 'evidence', anecdotal evidence, as well as what the former developer said in the linked video.

I also reviewed how many Quillmane kills occur on the servers on a daily basis; there are many. The amount of cloaks on the other hand, I agree needed adjustment to get to a better place.

So, the loot table should function better after next patch.

Fixed, pending update

[Robot]

Originally Posted by nilbog [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

The drop rate of the cloak vs the leggings was slightly off. I mean, it wasn't off by much, but likely exacerbated the issue of overall rarity when combined with fewer kills.

That part has been reevaluated and the change will be in the next update.

As far as the spawning method, I do not see anything wrong with it, and aligns with the 'evidence', anecdotal evidence, as well as what the former developer said in the linked video.

I also reviewed how many Quillmane kills occur on the servers on a daily basis; there are many. The amount of cloaks on the other hand, I agree needed adjustment to get to a better place.

So, the loot table should function better after next patch.

Fixed, pending update

Any chance you could as least clarify which version of the classic spawning method you are using? There seems to be several different version or accounts of classic quillmane spawning methods. However, most of the classic information on Quillmane spawning suggests the placeholders can only spawn south of splitpaw on fixed points (albeit many), but it appears post-change on p99 at least that placeholders can spawn on any point on their roaming paths, including far north in the zone, which evidence (and most of the posts in this thread) suggests should not be happening.

[Robot]

Originally Posted by Robot [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Any chance you could as least clarify which version of the classic spawning method you are using? There seems to be several different version or accounts of classic quillmane spawning methods. However, most of the classic information on Quillmane spawning suggests the placeholders can only spawn south of splitpaw on fixed points (albeit many), but it appears post-change on p99 at least that placeholders can spawn on any point on their roaming paths, including far north in the zone, which evidence (and most of the posts in this thread) suggests should not be happening.

retract this statement, after a few more days of trying to figure out the spawn we figured it out and everything seems to be working properly, thanks Nilbog for the change and making this classic, fun camp once you figure it out.