Cheating everywhere, GMs???

[titanshub]

Originally Posted by Samoht [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

The simplicity of it would blow your mind. It's too bad you're incapable of seeing beyond your preconceived notion that Stunningly would have to be cheating to beat people who don't even realize that there are better ways.

Like I said before, the point of view from OP is that stunningly *has* to be cheating and goes on to fabricate metrics that support that point of view.

Nobody bothered to approach the subject from the angle of what they could be doing to do it better. Well besides Kickenit. Who openly cheated and received no punishment that I know of.

Oh tell me more about your secret evidence. Personally I'm happy to be shown where OP made a mistake. I've been saying it repeatedly all day. Show where OP went wrong in his analysis or shut up. Simple as that.

[Samoht]

Originally Posted by titanshub [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Oh tell me more about your secret evidence. Personally I'm happy to be shown where OP made a mistake. I've been saying it repeatedly all day. Show where OP went wrong in his analysis or shut up. Simple as that.

I've already done that more than once in this thread. You can't just keep saying it's right and ignoring people telling you what's wrong to prove your point.

Pull your head out of your ass.

[Ennewi]

The USADA itself tested Armstrong fewer than 60 times, and the International Cycling Union tested him about 215 times, the USADA report said.

… and “not a single positive test”

The other half of that often repeated claim from Armstrong and his camp has obviously carried more weight: that there was not “a single positive test.”

“Six samples that were taken from Lance Armstrong were retested in ’05 and they were positive,” USADA head Tygart recently told “60 Minutes.”

The tests were originally taken in 1999, before there was a test for EPO, he said. When new tests were conducted in 2005, “all six were flaming positive,” he said.

[DeathsSilkyMist]

Originally Posted by Ennewi [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

The USADA itself tested Armstrong fewer than 60 times, and the International Cycling Union tested him about 215 times, the USADA report said.

… and “not a single positive test”

The other half of that often repeated claim from Armstrong and his camp has obviously carried more weight: that there was not “a single positive test.”

“Six samples that were taken from Lance Armstrong were retested in ’05 and they were positive,” USADA head Tygart recently told “60 Minutes.”

The tests were originally taken in 1999, before there was a test for EPO, he said. When new tests were conducted in 2005, “all six were flaming positive,” he said.

Any real life sports analogy is irrelevant. There is no internet between Armstrong and his Bike, Armstrong and his muscles, etc. That is why online gaming is different. There is an intermediary between the player who is at their computer, and the other observers on different computers. That is why gaming tournaments are always done as a LAN party, to remove those factors as much as humanly possible.

[karadin]

Originally Posted by Ennewi [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

The USADA itself tested Armstrong fewer than 60 times, and the International Cycling Union tested him about 215 times, the USADA report said.

… and “not a single positive test”

The other half of that often repeated claim from Armstrong and his camp has obviously carried more weight: that there was not “a single positive test.”

“Six samples that were taken from Lance Armstrong were retested in ’05 and they were positive,” USADA head Tygart recently told “60 Minutes.”

The tests were originally taken in 1999, before there was a test for EPO, he said. When new tests were conducted in 2005, “all six were flaming positive,” he said.

Lance Armstrong was a cheater and therefore anyone accused of cheating from that point on is a cheater. I’m glad we’ve resolved this.

[zati]

Originally Posted by karadin [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Lance Armstrong was a cheater and therefore anyone accused of cheating from that point on is a cheater. I’m glad we’ve resolved this.

Don't think he means it that way. Probably that he got away with it for so long and with many many tests from multiple sources and being undetected..for awhile it eventually surfaces. is just something to think about ya know? source: i have a brain

[karadin]

Originally Posted by zati [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Don't think he means it that way. Probably that he got away with it for so long and with many many tests from multiple sources and being undetected..for awhile it eventually surfaces. is just something to think about ya know? source: i have a brain

Lance Armstrong’s doping accusations are irrelevant to this situation. How do I know? source: I have a brain

[zati]

Originally Posted by karadin [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Lance Armstrong’s doping accusations are irrelevant to this situation. How do I know? source: I have a brain

How is cheating in a "competitive game" different than cheating in another sport or anywhere else or any other aspects in life? As you say this server is meant to be competitive. Evidence or without evidence there's always a system in place to prevent such things from happening. OP is doing a service (Could be wrong or right) because GMs' don't investigate it the way it should. What are you doing and your officers/leaders doing besides bashing someones analysis and providing no intelligent responses to further the validity, safety, and security of P99 Elves? Get off your high horse.

Source: I am smarter than you.

before you post your rebuttal : I am smarter-er than you.

[Ennewi]

Originally Posted by karadin [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Lance Armstrong was a cheater and therefore anyone accused of cheating from that point on is a cheater. I’m glad we’ve resolved this.

The tests were originally taken in 1999, before there was a test for EPO, he said. When new tests were conducted in 2005, “all six were flaming positive,” he said.

The point being, there was no way to prove it at the time...

[karadin]

Originally Posted by Ennewi [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

The point being, there was no way to prove it at the time...

Great, Lance Armstrong was once considered a legend and is now considered a cheater. What is the relevance here? Are you waiting for the day that science can finally catch cheaters? Cool.