<ST> cucking out of Green99 due to Kingdom taking their merbz

[Phraxas]

Originally Posted by dareo [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

If farming warders sucks, not saying it doesnt, can’t a guild just stop doing it? Farming a fishbone earring sucks but somebody is usually there signing up for it. Thats the game, camps that suck for stuff you probably dont need.

Is warder loot so good that you have to farm it 24/7 and the only relief is waking sleeper? Honest question.

if you worked on getting keys, prioritizing them for 9 months. Forgoing everything else, socking relentlessly. Would you just stop??

[dareo]

Originally Posted by Phraxas [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

if you worked on getting keys, prioritizing them for 9 months. Forgoing everything else, socking relentlessly. Would you just stop??

Not likely. Taking a month off from the zone to do other encounters maybe. Im guessing the guild would be dragging a chunk of members to one side of the decision against their will either way.

[Phraxas]

Originally Posted by dareo [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Not likely. Taking a month off from the zone to do other encounters maybe. Im guessing the guild would be dragging a chunk of members to one side of the decision against their will either way.

now imagine for 9 months you played by the rules and the other entity for the last 2 months, have done everything in their power to play in the grey area of rules. For example, Telling you to drop an encounter because you didnt reach 97% in 60 seconds, then a week later go 65 seconds and say "GMs dont count seconds." or countless LTK exit room trains, or stalling a yeli and ignoring video evidence just to continue to kill it or better yet raid interfering a FTE and then their response is "control your FTE".

How many of the 100+ members who just spent 9 months working their butts off, just to see another raid force Kill 1 concede 2 to get a key, how many of them would just stop and essentially be ok with the other raid force getting whatever they want.

so many sides to the story of the sleeper that you just can't control it, but when you do control it, which Seal Team did, there still going to be that side that disagrees.

[dareo]

Originally Posted by Phraxas [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

now imagine for 9 months you played by the rules and the other entity for the last 2 months, have done everything in their power to play in the grey area of rules. For example, Telling you to drop an encounter because you didnt reach 97% in 60 seconds, then a week later go 65 seconds and say "GMs dont count seconds." or countless LTK exit room trains, or stalling a yeli and ignoring video evidence just to continue to kill it or better yet raid interfering a FTE and then their response is "control your FTE".

How many of the 100+ members who just spent 9 months working their butts off, just to see another raid force Kill 1 concede 2 to get a key, how many of them would just stop and essentially be ok with the other raid force getting whatever they want.

so many sides to the story of the sleeper that you just can't control it, but when you do control it, which Seal Team did, there still going to be that side that disagrees.

"This is why we can't have nice things!" heheh

[Phraxas]

Originally Posted by dareo [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

"This is why we can't have nice things!" heheh

im not saying this is the sole reason the sleeper was woken but its fair to say, everyone had their hand in it and every choice before, during, and after the sleeper was woken will have an outcome somebody out there doesn't like.

[Wiff]

Originally Posted by Phraxas [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

How many of the 100+ members who just spent 9 months working their butts off, just to see another raid force Kill 1 concede 2 to get a key, how many of them would just stop and essentially be ok with the other raid force getting whatever they want.

so many sides to the story of the sleeper that you just can't control it, but when you do control it, which Seal Team did, there still going to be that side that disagrees.

And yet even your own story speaks of revenge and denying loot. Doesn't seem like there's different stories here, just different ways of telling the same one. /shrug

[Phraxas]

Originally Posted by Wiff [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

And yet even your own story speaks of revenge and denying loot. Doesn't seem like there's different stories here, just different ways of telling the same one. /shrug

oh im sorry i just asume most people have read the 18 pages of this thread where other people have mentioned other stories. Or maybe you missed the 45 pg thread in Green Discussion thread explaining other members thoughts... my fault didnt think you'd read my 1 comment here and take it as gospel... oh wait simple minds tend to follow short easy slogans like "SealTeam is toxic" and "ST Doesn't want Competition"

[Convict]

Originally Posted by Phraxas [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

now imagine for 9 months you played by the rules and the other entity for the last 2 months, have done everything in their power to play in the grey area of rules. For example, Telling you to drop an encounter because you didnt reach 97% in 60 seconds, then a week later go 65 seconds and say "GMs dont count seconds." or countless LTK exit room trains, or stalling a yeli and ignoring video evidence just to continue to kill it or better yet raid interfering a FTE and then their response is "control your FTE".

How many of the 100+ members who just spent 9 months working their butts off, just to see another raid force Kill 1 concede 2 to get a key, how many of them would just stop and essentially be ok with the other raid force getting whatever they want.

so many sides to the story of the sleeper that you just can't control it, but when you do control it, which Seal Team did, there still going to be that side that disagrees.

Other guild got a couple keys out of the 30 plus they have by questionable means. Welp guess that means we have to wake sleeper and fuck the whole server over.
Well adjusted individuals.

Its comical you are even trying to explain your position rationally like anybody in here is going to agree with your perspective. You want exclusivity, period. Just be honest about it, there's no reason trying to spin it as kingdom is the bad guy, anybody with even 20% of a brain sees right through it. And stop trying to act like you wouldn't have woken it if Kingdom had gotten all their keys 100% legit. You were waking it soon as they had a warder kill force regardless of their method of obtaining keys.

The top guilds on p99 generally almost always house the most hardcore career everquest players whose lives completely revolve around p99. Their top priority from the time they create their character is to obtain items that nobody else can get. It validates the amount of time they pour into this virtual world. If some casual with 20% raid attendance in a 2nd or 3rd place guild gets that same exclusive loot, it hurts their ego and diminishes their accomplishments. That's why it was woken.

[cd288]

Originally Posted by Convict [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Other guild got a couple keys out of the 30 plus they have by questionable means. Welp guess that means we have to wake sleeper and fuck the whole server over.
Well adjusted individuals.

Its comical you are even trying to explain your position rationally like anybody in here is going to agree with your perspective. You want exclusivity, period. Just be honest about it, there's no reason trying to spin it as kingdom is the bad guy, anybody with even 20% of a brain sees right through it. And stop trying to act like you wouldn't have woken it if Kingdom had gotten all their keys 100% legit. You were waking it soon as they had a warder kill force regardless of their method of obtaining keys.

The top guilds on p99 generally almost always house the most hardcore career everquest players whose lives completely revolve around p99. Their top priority from the time they create their character is to obtain items that nobody else can get. It validates the amount of time they pour into this virtual world. If some casual with 20% raid attendance in a 2nd or 3rd place guild gets that same exclusive loot, it hurts their ego and diminishes their accomplishments. That's why it was woken.

Hate to say it but this is accurate

[Phraxas]

Originally Posted by cd288 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Hate to say it but this is accurate

Not accurate at all, the whole server would not, nor will ever see Sleepers Tomb. So no, the entire server didn’t get fucked over.

Painting kingdom to be the bad guy? Again, big nope! there, just questioning their leaders reason to avoid competing for keys for 7 months.

Career EverQuest players? Nope sorry been promoted twice in my job, keep a 30-40% RA in Seal Team and I’m doing pretty fucking good for myself Loot wise. So that’s 3 strikes…

Nothing accurate about this post