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[algernop]

Originally Posted by Croco [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Unfortunately the 85/15 piggyback rule wasn't created until after Omens of War came out so that'll never be on PQ unless Secrets decides to add it as an out of era QoL feature later.

This is not true. I remember being piggy backed before even GoD came out.

[Jimjam]

Originally Posted by algernop [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

This is not true. I remember being piggy backed before even GoD came out.

Flaggot!

Yea this cme out way before oow. Before even GoD i reckon. Somewhere from loy to ldon. I am sure i was being a flaggot toward the tail end of ldon.

Man i loved delving for augs and building up thr alt currencies to spend on the armours and spells at each camp!

My fave augs were the bounce ones - proced a buff that had a chance to reflect spells at the caster. Always dreamt of reflecting a death touch but never did!

[aussenseiter]

Originally Posted by Jimjam [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Flaggot!

Yea this cme out way before oow. Before even GoD i reckon. Somewhere from loy to ldon. I am sure i was being a flaggot toward the tail end of ldon.

Man i loved delving for augs and building up thr alt currencies to spend on the armours and spells at each camp!

My fave augs were the bounce ones - proced a buff that had a chance to reflect spells at the caster. Always dreamt of reflecting a death touch but never did!

Hope you find a good barrister or it's tea time for you, mate.

[aussenseiter]

Originally Posted by Croco [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

You're welcome to do the research yourself but you'll find that you're wrong.

85/15 is said to be AK classic by the folks who would know.

[Daldaen]

Originally Posted by aussenseiter [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

85/15 is said to be AK classic by the folks who would know.

Al’Kabor had an extremely broken variant of 85/15 and only in two locations.

The first was the zoneline from HoH to HoHB. This was so broken that it allowed 6 flagged characters to bring in 54 unflagged characters. Furthermore the three HoH trials were completely optional for Elemental and Time flagging purposes, as was Aerin’Dar.

The second was Solusek’s Tower. This one did require 85/15, but because it was a key within a zone theoretically you could have 6 flagged people in a raid invite unflagged one at a time, click up and drop the raid, ferrying an unlimited number of people up there.

So the code technically existed, but I think Hobart ported over some data to make those two weird cases work and obviously not as intended.

85/15 went through a few different iterations but it definitely wasn’t fully in place until late 2004. That’s around when they introduced backflags from EP God hails and Phase 3 PoTime backflag keys.

https://thedruidsgrove.org/archive/eq/t-10310.html

[aussenseiter]

Originally Posted by Daldaen [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Al’Kabor had an extremely broken variant of 85/15 and only in two locations.

The first was the zoneline from HoH to HoHB. This was so broken that it allowed 6 flagged characters to bring in 54 unflagged characters. Furthermore the three HoH trials were completely optional for Elemental and Time flagging purposes, as was Aerin’Dar.

The second was Solusek’s Tower. This one did require 85/15, but because it was a key within a zone theoretically you could have 6 flagged people in a raid invite unflagged one at a time, click up and drop the raid, ferrying an unlimited number of people up there.

So the code technically existed, but I think Hobart ported over some data to make those two weird cases work and obviously not as intended.

85/15 went through a few different iterations but it definitely wasn’t fully in place until late 2004. That’s around when they introduced backflags from EP God hails and Phase 3 PoTime backflag keys.

https://thedruidsgrove.org/archive/eq/t-10310.html

You're who I was thinking of but I guess I don't read good and other stuff too.

[aussenseiter]

Originally Posted by Croco [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

PQ isn't an AK clone.

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[Jimjam]

Originally Posted by Croco [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

You're welcome to do the research yourself but you'll find that you're wrong.

Okay.

https://web.archive.org/web/20031202...tml?quest=2638

People talking in 2003, a year before oow, and in the year before GoD, about the 85% rule.

[aussenseiter]

Originally Posted by Croco [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

So looks like we were both wrong. The 85/15 rule first went into effect during the June 11th 2003 patch. So during Ykesha about 3 months before Ldon came out. So unfortunately not during PoP so it won't be active on PQ unless Secrets later determines he wants to add it as a QoL feature.

https://everquest.allakhazam.com/story.html?story=1748

Nov 2003 is after June 2003.

Hope this helps.

[aussenseiter]

Originally Posted by Croco [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Legacy of Ykesha came out in February of 2003.

Hope this helps.

Originally Posted by Croco [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Unfortunately the 85/15 piggyback rule wasn't created until after Omens of War came out so that'll never be on PQ unless Secrets decides to add it as an out of era QoL feature later.

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