shaman duo

[Zuranthium]

Originally Posted by PatChapp [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Part of a shamans role in a melee/shaman duo is cc. If I was duoing with a shaman and they didn't at least epic dot the rooted adds I would be very unimpressed.

Shaman being a potential high tier DPS completely falls apart when fighting things that summon. You absolutely do not want to DoT the adds. You want to root them and not touch them with damage until it's time to kill.

[Gloomlord]

Originally Posted by Zuranthium [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Shaman being a potential high tier DPS completely falls apart when fighting things that summon. You absolutely do not want to DoT the adds. You want to root them and not touch them with damage until it's time to kill.

Yet DSM root rots low level trash in a dungeon and uses this as proof of Shaman DPS superiority over a Magician...

[DeathsSilkyMist]

Originally Posted by Zuranthium [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Shaman being a potential high tier DPS completely falls apart when fighting things that summon. You absolutely do not want to DoT the adds. You want to root them and not touch them with damage until it's time to kill.

Originally Posted by Gloomlord [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Yet DSM root rots low level trash in a dungeon and uses this as proof of Shaman DPS superiority over a Magician...

These two quotes show you do not really know what you are talking about to be honest. Please name a zone where you are going to be killing tons of summoning trash for XP or loot with a duo/small group. This question is even trickier if we assume the duo/small group isn't level 60 yet.

Generally speaking you are either clearing non-summoning trash for XP, or you are camping a specific mob for loot and not plowing through a lot of summoning mobs.

When a Shaman needs to do single target DPS on a named mob or summoning mob, they can stack DoTs and use their pet + JBB. JBB + EBolt + Hasted Pet is already 55 DPS or so. Stack Epic DoT and Bane on top of that and your DPS is 80+.

You really need to think about these situations a little more.

[Gloomlord]

Ah, so then why are you bothering to respond to me?

I'm just an "angry troll", yet you decide to engage with me? Could it actually be that you know I'm right and that you need convince yourself otherwise?

The only one you can convince is yourself at this point, because noone else is buying your nonsense.

[DeathsSilkyMist]

Originally Posted by Gloomlord [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Ah, so then why are you bothering to respond to me?

I'm just an "angry troll", yet you decide to engage with me? Could it actually be that you know I'm right and that you need convince yourself otherwise?

The only one you can convince is yourself at this point, because noone else is buying your nonsense.

It's really quite simple. I don't have a grudge against anyone on these forums, including yourself.

I am confident you can fix your anger management issues if you realize you have them. You can keep insulting me if you want, but you aren't going to accomplish whatever goal you think you are trying to achieve by exclusively trolling and insulting people. The only thing you are doing is looking like an asshole.

[Troxx]

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[Gloomlord]

You can't have it both ways...

You can't say Troxx and I are trolling for the mere sake of it, then decide to engage with us. That reveals you're a liar who keeps the flames going for either your amusement or to save face because you know you look foolish.

You know I've checkmated you here.

[DeathsSilkyMist]

Originally Posted by Gloomlord [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

You can't have it both ways...

You can't say Troxx and I are trolling for the mere sake of it, then decide to engage with us. That reveals you're a liar who keeps the flames going for either your amusement or to save face because you know you look foolish.

You know I've checkmated you here.

I certainly can have it both ways, and I do!

Your strange ideas of what people "must" do are simply delusions. I don't have to follow whatever nonsensical ideas you have in your head.

Please fix your anger management issues so you can be a positive poster here.

[Gloomlord]

You can't have it both ways in a logical sense, because you're contradicting yourself.

I can't claim someone is an angry arsehole whilst I go completely out of my way to annoy them and exacerbate the situation.

Read what I'm writing before you childishly reply "I can have it both ways!".

[DeathsSilkyMist]

Originally Posted by Gloomlord [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

You can't have it both ways in a logical sense, because you're contradicting yourself.

I can't claim someone is an angry arsehole whilst I go completely out of my way to annoy them and exacerbate the situation.

Read what I'm writing before you childishly reply "I can have it both ways!".

The problem is you assume people must operate in specific ways, and there is no grey area. Your "logic" is deeply flawed. This may be why you keep talking in circles. You cannot seem to understand that people can operate outside of the assumptions within your head.