Player Agreement: Rule Change at the DS Camp

[magicfest2]

Originally Posted by sajbert [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Oh yeah, I'm sure OP is just remembering. GG would NEVER do that. Right fellas? [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Again, my group is primarily GG but is not exclusively GG and is not the only GG doing this camp. Referring to the groups camping DS by their guild is not really accurate, and leads to misunderstanding…

I actually did some digging and the first time I can find that we even heard about OP at the camp was 6/17 and another duo who happen to be in GG made him clear (and took the camp). We saw him ourselves the next day on 6/18 and just logged out. The first time we actually interacted with him was when he forced us to clear for several hours on 6/20. At the time he was already angry about the previous days even though this was our first time seeing him. We tried to explain we aren’t the same group but he refused to listen or attempt to understand. We continued to log on earlier than him for the next several days as well, just like his video shows, though we were only beating him by about 15-30 minutes, which we admittedly found a little funny.

Anyway, our group does not request clears except in response to others, as a matter of policy. By the time he got the camp and we asked him to clear for the first time, he’d been forcing us to clear for a simply stupid amount of hours, and we returned the favor. Until recently with Castle (who IS doing it as a guild, apparently) OP is by far the most we have asked someone to clear, and it’s essentially because of his misunderstanding about our group membership and refusal to listen. We’ve asked Castle to clear a bit more than we typically like to (sitting there watching is a huge waste of time too) given their 24h hold for most of the past month, and to their credit, they’ve held well! Honestly I think it’s impressive to see a group of people band together and manage to hold something like that for that long.

[berbax]

Originally Posted by magicfest2 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Again, my group is primarily GG but is not exclusively GG and is not the only GG doing this camp. Referring to the groups camping DS by their guild is not really accurate, and leads to misunderstanding…

I actually did some digging and the first time I can find that we even heard about OP at the camp was 6/17 and another duo who happen to be in GG made him clear (and took the camp). We saw him ourselves the next day on 6/18 and just logged out. The first time we actually interacted with him was when he forced us to clear for several hours on 6/20. At the time he was already angry about the previous days even though this was our first time seeing him. We tried to explain we aren’t the same group but he refused to listen or attempt to understand. We continued to log on earlier than him for the next several days as well, just like his video shows, though we were only beating him by about 15-30 minutes, which we admittedly found a little funny.

Anyway, our group does not request clears except in response to others, as a matter of policy. By the time he got the camp and we asked him to clear for the first time, he’d been forcing us to clear for a simply stupid amount of hours, and we returned the favor. Until recently with Castle (who IS doing it as a guild, apparently) OP is by far the most we have asked someone to clear, and it’s essentially because of his misunderstanding about our group membership and refusal to listen. We’ve asked Castle to clear a bit more than we typically like to (sitting there watching is a huge waste of time too) given their 24h hold for most of the past month, and to their credit, they’ve held well! Honestly I think it’s impressive to see a group of people band together and manage to hold something like that for that long.

The purpose of this discussion is to address the need for a rule change at the DS camp, not to delve into the specifics of group dynamics within "Good Guys." It seems that your experience of being forced to clear the camp for hours has been frustrating. This frustration supports the argument for a roll system, which would reduce the need for prolonged and contentious camping sessions.

Implementing a roll system would streamline the process, making it fairer and less time-consuming for everyone involved. Agreeing to this change would benefit all players by creating a more equitable and efficient way to manage high-demand camps like DS. Let’s focus on improving the camp’s rules for the betterment of the entire community.