Discussion: +/- 8 Levels, Dynamic

[Yukahwa]

Originally Posted by Envious [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

4 level range means that a Lord group of lvl 50s or an Efreeti group of lvl 50s, cant kill a group of 45s. And considering they would all be grinding / farming / exp'ing in the same zones...

That would be the suck.

Thats a really powerful point.

To Leth - A duo of level 20's could easily kill a group of level 12's, the damage cap is lifted and any lvl 12 caster would be practically a 2 shot with a decent 2hs.

But theres no magical way to make it all perfect. I see the problem with level 45's vs. Lvl 50's in guk though, so I support the 8 level range or at least something more than 4.

These discussions are exciting.


Edit- After reading some threads...I think maybe the PVP range should be 4 levels at lower levels and then increase at the upper levels. This solves the problem of lowbies being vastly overpowered by people 8 levels above them..a level 12 wizard vs. lvl 4 is just a sad sight...level 8 vs lvl 12 is a lot more doable (at least the level 8 has a chance of escape) and it lets genuine lowbies get out of PVP range in a more reasonable length of time.

It also solves the problem of level 50's and level 45's not being able to engage eachother in guk because at that point the lvl limit would have increased.

I think this in addition to the OOR healer problem solver that Rogean suggested would work pretty well.

Just like how at low levels things become light blue / green con much quicker than they do at high levels.

[lethdar]

Originally Posted by Yukahwa [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

To Leth - A duo of level 20's could easily kill a group of level 12's, the damage cap is lifted and any lvl 12 caster would be practically a 2 shot with a decent 2hs.

Eq isn't daoc, just being higher level doesn't make you immune to spells. Unless you're talking about a twink melee going to town with a mith 2hander 2 rounding people it still isn't possible.

I mean really, how are you envisioning this scenario to play out, even with duo rather than 1 melee? The 6 level 12s to sit still waiting for autoattack to kill them with a steel sword or some other equally shitty low lvl 2 hander? That none of the casters will cast blind, root, snare, mez, da, shadowstep, or any other number of cc spells that would land on a melee because they aren't going to have dick for MR gear at 20? That the initial target is just going to stand there as he is slowly autoattacked to death instead of kite around? That the healers in the group wont be healing the sad amounts of damage a lvl 20 melee will put out with a bone bladed claymore or whatever?

Even a 20 mage could get owned if he went unprepared against a group of competent lvl 12s. Melee are the defenseless little lambs of the server until they get resist gear, buffs, and weapons. None of that occurs at lvl 20.

[Envious]

Macken has burnt me out on all the SZ shit, so whenever someone posts "This is how it was on SZ" or "SZ was bestest, make server like that" or "SZ etc" I automatically ignore the post.

Originally Posted by juicedsixfo [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Well except for the fact they will be dinging 46 eventually?

Not with classic exp rates =P




Lethdar, my dumb shit board pal. A lvl 20 can easily rock a group of lvl 12s. A lvl 20 pet would almost wipe out a group of lvl 12s. Lvl 20 wizards can 1 shot lvl 12s. Wtf are you smoking? Granted, a balanced group of 6 lvl 12s that are prep'd and known each other and ready can prolly kill a lvl 20 without a full wipe.

But thats not pvp brah~ In PvP 2 of those lvl 12s are going to be dead before they realize there is PvP, and add in a few NPCs...

Wtf are you smoking?

[lethdar]

Originally Posted by Envious [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Macken has burnt me out on all the SZ shit, so whenever someone posts "This is how it was on SZ" or "SZ was bestest, make server like that" or "SZ etc" I automatically ignore the post.



Not with classic exp rates =P




Lethdar, my dumb shit board pal. A lvl 20 can easily rock a group of lvl 12s. A lvl 20 pet would almost wipe out a group of lvl 12s. Lvl 20 wizards can 1 shot lvl 12s. Wtf are you smoking? Granted, a balanced group of 6 lvl 12s that are prep'd and known each other and ready can prolly kill a lvl 20 without a full wipe.

But thats not pvp brah~ In PvP 2 of those lvl 12s are going to be dead before they realize there is PvP, and add in a few NPCs...

Wtf are you smoking?

Envious my retarded illiterate board pal, if you bothered to read his post you would see hes talking about a lvl 20 melee owning groups of 12s. This is moronic, and something only a mage or caster could do. Thank you for agreeing with me.

[Danien]

Originally Posted by lethdar [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Envious my retarded illiterate board pal, if you bothered to read his post you would see hes talking about a lvl 20 melee owning groups of 12s. This is moronic, and something only a mage or caster could do. Thank you for agreeing with me.

I lol'd. Hard.

[Envious]

Originally Posted by lethdar [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Envious my retarded illiterate board pal, if you bothered to read his post you would see hes talking about a lvl 20 melee owning groups of 12s. This is moronic, and something only a mage or caster could do. Thank you for agreeing with me.

Shit happens. =P