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Old 08-08-2025, 01:07 PM
kjs86z2 kjs86z2 is offline
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you maybe new, there could be 100 guilds and everyone one of them also is this way.
wasnt like that in Freedom

just sayin bub
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Old 08-08-2025, 01:12 PM
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wasnt like that in Freedom

just sayin bub
it was like that in every guild, few does work, rest suck the tit.

just a matter of what you did
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Old 08-08-2025, 01:30 PM
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it was like that in every guild, few does work, rest suck the tit.

just a matter of what you did
yeah but at least there would be 10 people from each guild competing against each other, instead of a massive zerg army dominating simply because nobody else can cobble together 30 people for a raid
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Old 08-08-2025, 02:18 PM
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yeah but at least there would be 10 people from each guild competing against each other, instead of a massive zerg army dominating simply because nobody else can cobble together 30 people for a raid
sorry you dont got raid
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Old 08-08-2025, 01:41 PM
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it was like that in every guild, few does work, rest suck the tit.

just a matter of what you did
nah

you wasnt there

it did become that immediately after merge w/ AG tho, lotsa wallickers
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Old 08-08-2025, 02:22 PM
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Even in smaller guilds, if everyone tried to do all the obvious work on raids, that work would take more work and it might even be undone. Can't have everyone leading. There comes a point when too much of a good thing is bad. Too many cooks in the kitchen, so to speak. Pullers stepping on each others' toes. Kiters crossing streams, aggro bouncing all over. Tanks can wait in the wings for adds or if the MA goes down, but otherwise they're DPS.

The same goes for group content. Typically, one puller, one tank, one or more CC. Heal/support roles and especially DPS can be legion. One player can fulfill multiple active roles, but usually not the other way around. As a result, most of the group stays in camp, similar to the raid force. If the puller dies, rogue suddenly takes lead and drags the corpse. If a train overtakes the group, ench/bard mezzes or dru/wiz evacs. The leadership role changes as the situation does, with each class having an opportunity to shine.
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Old 08-08-2025, 02:29 PM
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Perfect example of this is when everyone tries to talk over each other in coms. Gotta have one, maybe two people with speaking privileges when shit hits the fan, otherwise things just get shittier.
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Old 08-08-2025, 02:44 PM
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That said, there's the good way to follow and the bad. The bad way? Player AFKs without using /afk, standing in a bad spot right before the raid needs to move, pull, or vacate a wing. The bad train the tree, being too cheap or absent-minded to use invis. The bad also don't prepark their alts to loot quickly, which creates delays for kiters and the guild as a whole. The bad rogues don't stealth down to trak. The bad zerg push backstabbing targets over the MA. The bad plow enrage. The bad click translocate before dropping group. The bad botch their ring war turn-in (guilty).

A lot of what makes a good follower is based on what you don't do and a lot of what makes a good leader is based on what you do do. But then the bad followers do force the good leaders to be that much better, which isn't entirely bad. Still though, get good.
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