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[shovelquest]

Originally Posted by cd288 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

And?

and they had 20k average users online at once in their discord 24 hrs a day.

And they said they had server traffic that they guessed was around 30k concurrent users.

and they very expecittly explained the difference between concurrent, and active, and peak, in those youtubes.

That is information that you can use to go, hmm wow that is imprsesive.

But you hate that information because you only look at like this: damn yeah, that is quite a bit Im not surprised they got sued.

I mean, just try to break down the $100k a month for crying out loud! Im gonna ask AI (at the risk of you thinking AI is always wrong and fake and auto disqualifying it)

But it says that breaks down to 10,000 monthly donators. That's 10,000 people playing so much they donate!

A pretty normal “gaming community” mix to hit ~$100k could look like 10,000 donors total with most at $5, a chunk at $15, and a small high tier at $50. For example: 7,000 at $5 ($35k) + 2,500 at $15 ($37.5k) + 500 at $50 ($25k) = $97.5k, then ~25 “whales” at $100 adds $2.5k to land right on $100k. If you believe the scene skews more whale-heavy, you could be closer to 3,000–4,000 donors averaging ~$25–$35 instead.

[bcbrown]

Originally Posted by shovelquest [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

They talked about it in the weekly Q&As on youtube that they did man, they were very open about it. Don't ask me to watch litreally 50s of hours of Q&As with them to find it.

But just rest assured

between 3 months they went from 0 to 30k subs, a discord with 25k active users (actively posting 24 hrs a day) and said that those numbers matched the server traffic.

At any given time you could be in the bazaar and there were over 1000 people not AFK distributed among 20 instances.

I thought you said it was referenced in a court filing. I was curious but not curious enough to try to find the court filings.

[shovelquest]

court filing says that they had 30k users.

They broke down what that meant on a live stream Q&A.

[bcbrown]

Not daily-active users or monthly-active users but total user accounts?

[cd288]

Originally Posted by bcbrown [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Not daily-active users or monthly-active users but total user accounts?

Correct lol

[shovelquest]

they said that on any given day those users would log in they said there about 5k dead accounts they said that it takes about that many to keep a server population around 4k dailiy, which is what it was on THJ.

Im not saying there were 30k people online all the time, never did, i said that there were that many (give or take 5k) people who were "ACTIVE CONCURRENT" players. That meant would log in within 1 or 2 days regularly.

They explained this all in detail.

Idk why CD is so mad.

[shovelquest]

*shit i mean, that it takes that many concurrent players, to make 5k active ones.

Thats what they said anyway.

[shovelquest]

Project 1999s number was not active, or concurrent, it was peak.

They peaked once, meeting what THJ was averaging.

Hope this helps.

[bcbrown]

Originally Posted by shovelquest [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

they said that on any given day those users would log in they said there about 5k dead accounts they said that it takes about that many to keep a server population around 4k dailiy, which is what it was on THJ.

Im not saying there were 30k people online all the time, never did, i said that there were that many (give or take 5k) people who were "ACTIVE CONCURRENT" players. That meant would log in within 1 or 2 days regularly.

They explained this all in detail.

Idk why CD is so mad.

"Active concurrent" doesn't usually mean "log in every other day". The 4k figure you reference is what I would call "active concurrent".

That's why CD is mad. Because you're using nonstandard terminology.

So... 30k total accounts, 24k "active" accounts which is probably a MAU figure. 3-4k peak concurrent population.

[shovelquest]

yeah idk the correct terms I was just using my best memory of what they were talking about it when i was just kind of paying attention, but it's certanly an impressive number.

It definitely felt more populated than the mischief or even teak. Like, it was astonishing how many people were online.

The irony that it was basically a solo version of EQ.