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Old 04-06-2010, 12:11 PM
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What he said, execpt for the word unfortunately.

I am against two boxing. Regardless of what some people may think, it does harm the community.
I'm not a proponent either way, but I'd like to hear how it hurts the community.
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Old 04-06-2010, 12:14 PM
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I'm not a proponent either way, but I'd like to hear how it hurts the community.
Easier for single-person farmers to monopolize spawns.

For every boxxed class in a group there is one live person of said class who can't find a group.

Less social interaction.

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Old 04-06-2010, 12:27 PM
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Easier for single-person farmers to monopolize spawns.

For every boxxed class in a group there is one live person of said class who can't find a group.

Less social interaction.

More Sam Deathwalkers.
I could see your first response being valid if the server was full.

Your second response isn't valid, at all. Read this thread, everyones suggestion was "to play a solo class". Unless you are a proponent of forcing people to group, too, and not allowing anyone to solo?

Response #3 fits in the same mold. If they want to solo, they are going to solo with or without 2 boxing.

While I don't care either way, the "result" of allowing 2 boxing is severely overblown by the users.
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Old 04-06-2010, 12:31 PM
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While I don't care either way, the "result" of allowing 2 boxing is severely overblown by the users.
All I have to say is look what happened on PEQ. Is that an indication of something being severely overblown?
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Old 04-06-2010, 01:02 PM
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All I have to say is look what happened on PEQ. Is that an indication of something being severely overblown?
I don't know PEQ. Fill me in?
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Old 04-06-2010, 12:39 PM
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I could see your first response being valid if the server was full.

Your second response isn't valid, at all. Read this thread, everyones suggestion was "to play a solo class". Unless you are a proponent of forcing people to group, too, and not allowing anyone to solo?

Response #3 fits in the same mold. If they want to solo, they are going to solo with or without 2 boxing.

While I don't care either way, the "result" of allowing 2 boxing is severely overblown by the users.
1) Have you seen dungeons during prime-time?

2) Player A 2Boxes War/Cleric
Player B 2boxes Rog/Ench
Player C 2boxes Monk/Wiz

3 people...full group...3 other people who play any of those classes don't get into group.

Extrapolate this across the whole server means more spawns/camps taken by less real people...did I really need to explain this? No. Did I just get trolled? Probably.

3) Less social interaction is not solely defined by grouping. Read: OOC chat, Trading etc.
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Old 04-06-2010, 01:13 PM
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1) Have you seen dungeons during prime-time?

2) Player A 2Boxes War/Cleric
Player B 2boxes Rog/Ench
Player C 2boxes Monk/Wiz

3 people...full group...3 other people who play any of those classes don't get into group.

Extrapolate this across the whole server means more spawns/camps taken by less real people...did I really need to explain this? No. Did I just get trolled? Probably.

3) Less social interaction is not solely defined by grouping. Read: OOC chat, Trading etc.
I have not seen dungeons at prime time. With only 600 players serverwide, I can't see it being much of an issue. I also do not know the history of this serve (I just found out about it within the past week or 2 and started playing with my wife and kids). I have seen CB at prime time, so far no issues there [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

With that being said, IMO, you're still exaggerating. 1 full group of people 2 boxing (semi-RARE occurrence?) doesn't mean those 3 classes cant find a group. It just means that they wont be in THAT one single group, and quite frankly, are halfway on their way to making their own group.

Thats my stance, for the most part. You've got one guy here claiming the server population would double if they allowed 2 boxing (I'll make the assumption that not everyone is able to 2 box, in fact, I'd guess a small number of people would be able to).

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Old 04-06-2010, 01:17 PM
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You just admitted that you know nothing of the situation over level 10, yet you're still willing to argue based on ignorance. Yes, you're a troll.
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Old 04-06-2010, 01:23 PM
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You just admitted that you know nothing of the situation over level 10, yet you're still willing to argue based on ignorance. Yes, you're a troll.
And yet I don't see you explaining the situation. If I'm wrong, show me how. I'm more then happy to admit I am wrong, when I am. I made the assumption that a server with a population of 600 or less will not have an issue int he dungeons. I played EQ back in the day, I know what a full server looks like, and how the dungeons are.

My assumption is that its nowhere as bad as people are making it out. If I'm wrong, show me, please.
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Old 04-06-2010, 01:46 PM
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With that being said, IMO, you're still exaggerating. 1 full group of people 2 boxing
Like I said, expand this scenario to not just one group, but across the server.

Like many others have said it leads to ever increasing rates of smaller percentages of actual players taking a higher percentage of camps / drops.
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