Discussion: Loot and Scoot (LnS)

[Softcore PK]

Yes, classic - velious the GMs got involved in pvp a lot. I'd kinda like to see some of that arbitrarily decided anti-PK GMing to keep some of the griefers in check :P

[gloinz]

Originally Posted by Softcore PK [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Yes, classic - velious the GMs got involved in pvp a lot. I'd kinda like to see some of that arbitrarily decided anti-PK GMing to keep some of the griefers in check :P

blue server is <- u seem to be lost

[Clearrain]

Originally Posted by Arillious [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Really? What era? I don't remember when, but they made corpse camping legal at some point(During kunark or velious). On VZ, my guild(Torrent) corpse camped another guild(Aduentus) for over a week after one of thier officer's trained us. This was during early PoP, we never got any GM interference.

One was prior to Kunark when some gnome wouldn't leave me alone in the oot.

Another was when I was in Combine Resurrection. Which was Kunark/Velious.

I specifically remember people receiving the Iggles treatment and the GM's dolling out punishment on the Iggles for protecting themselves from retards.

[oldfish]

Originally Posted by Bardalicious [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Rallos Zek originally adhered strictly to PNP-style rules. By which I mean any of the following would be considered against the rules:

Training
Intentional XP Loss
Corpse Camping
Zone Line Camping
General Griefing

At one point, killing players that were trying to hide under the protection of guards was considered against the PNP as well, though it was quickly forgotten as being impractical to expect players to not attack from range the people hiding at guards.

These were mostly player-enforced rules, but the constant threat of being banned was usually enough of an incentive to keep people mostly in line. Being that you seem to be leaning away from a RZ-style of PVP server, coupled with the type of player that comprise the EQEmu PVP community at large, I somewhat doubt it will work to expect players to govern themselves like they used to.

Are you serious? If these were actually the rules on Rallos, there was zero enforcement of them.

I played there 2 years, in 2000-2001.

Corpse camping and training was integral to the server. I have never heard once in 2 years on Rallos of someone talking about corpse camping, zone line camping or training being illegal. You would get spectres trains in Oasis each time you went there basically.

"General griefing" lol wtf is that, seriously that post is far removed from the experience you got playing on Rallos Zek. I got bind camped for half an hour and the thought of petitioning never entered my mind because thats how things were on Rallos.

After someone killed me for half an hour near Unrest, he msgs me and tells me "Ill stop killing you if you port me to Eastern Commons". Allrite i say. I port him in dreadlands at 2am in the morning in an empty zone.

THAT was Rallos Zek

[Softcore PK]

Those things were illegal on Vallon too.

[PlayervsDen]

Originally Posted by oldfish [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Are you serious? If these were actually the rules on Rallos, there was zero enforcement of them.

I played there 2 years, in 2000-2001.

Corpse camping and training was integral to the server. I have never heard once in 2 years on Rallos of someone talking about corpse camping, zone line camping or training being illegal. You would get spectres trains in Oasis each time you went there basically.

"General griefing" lol wtf is that, seriously that post is far removed from the experience you got playing on Rallos Zek. I got bind camped for half an hour and the thought of petitioning never entered my mind because thats how things were on Rallos.

After someone killed me for half an hour near Unrest, he msgs me and tells me "Ill stop killing you if you port me to Eastern Commons". Allrite i say. I port him in dreadlands at 2am in the morning in an empty zone.

THAT was Rallos Zek

Hell ya. this guy knows his shit. The only affiliation Rallos Zek had with the word Rules is the fact that they start with the same letter.

[Clearrain]

Originally Posted by Softcore PK [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Those things were illegal on Vallon too.

Bind Rushing was not illegal and even an abused game mechanic til they nerfed mana after death. CCed should have never been illegal.

[Valthar]

ZOMG Clearrain!

Anyway, as far as I remember, clear is right about bind rushing. It was frowned upon but not really illegal.

Honestly most of the stuff i remember being illegal on VZ was player enforced more than GM. Occasionally they may have done something about it but it was pretty rare.

[Clearrain]

Oh mah God. It's mother fuckin Drahzarius.

[Taluvill]

Enforce hacking/exploiting. Otherwise, leave it to the players.