With all of the complaining...

[HarrisonStillPosting]

Originally Posted by Bardalicious [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

K&B was destined to fail because of the asshats running the server. Both of them were exiled from EQEmu because of their entitled, better-than-thou behavior.

Red69, if I recall correctly, was put up by Freakyuno. He had no experience running an EQ server, much less a PVP server. He's a good guy, but it didn't take him long to fold his cards and pop up a WOW emu instead.

Red99, on the other hand, is being run by the staff that has the best record for running a classic server. They have all of the research done on what should be in and what shouldn't - unlike some shitty reincarnation of a pvp server using the horribly flawed VZTZ database and coding.

But really, what it comes down to despite the previous points, is that the pvp community here will NEVER be happy. Period. They'd rather bitch about every single aspect of a server that they play on for free, quit playing, then troll the rest of the people that choose to keep playing and/or the staff running the server.

This.

The vztz faggot crowd that we got infested with when that shitserver died is a disgusting cess pool. This server would be better if that piece of shit never died and kept all those crybaby pussies there.

They knew what this server was going to be when they got TOLD it by Rogean. They still cried about it being classic Everquest. That's the level of retard this "community" is at.

[Rust1d?]

Originally Posted by SearyxTZ [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Rust1d?: You make one of these threads like every 2 months, and it's obvious that you are one of the two devs (either devnoob or image).

I have already responded to this before but Ill do so again

1.) The timing on "red69" could not have been any worse -- coming after the shutdown of Secrets little VZTZ clone, and prior to the launch of the looming red99. Most players were going to take a pass on your server and wait for red99 which was being developed by the main eqemu guy (Rogean) who had a track record of professionalism and stability compared to other "running this off a spare box out of my garage" sandbox devs who had lesser resources and reputation.

I agree. However, track record means nothing if you put out a shitty product. Gotta be consistent. The server population went from 700 at start to maybe 70.

2.) You named it "red69". Unless you were trying to attract 12 year olds who still think the 69 number is hilarious + outrageous, all this did was make you look even less legit in light of the upcoming red99.
For naming convention: VZTZ == good. Guild Wars == good. Red69 == bad.

I am neither Image or Devnoob. I was not in favor of RED69 because I thought K&B could have been fixed right without all of the nonclassic zones such as nexus. The name was pretty bad.

3.) K&B was plainly custom. When you make the choice to go custom, you say goodbye to a huge % of your potential players. I think custom servers can work but it's a much higher mountain to climb that takes a longer time and word of mouth from players convincing other players that this non-classic server is worth playing and not just some hacky aimless crap a bored CS major cobbled together. I empathize with all the guys trying to make custom servers work (Secrets included) but it's a lot harder to sell on people. Most just want the classic EQ they remember.

I understand however when people DID get real classic, they did not want it. K&B had leader boards and rewards for PVP. These things encouraged pvp. In Red 99, people avoid it at all costs. It could have been more thought out, but I think they rushed it to beat Red99.

[SamwiseRed]

Why would you name a server Red69? I mean seriously lol. Total fail.

[Rust1d?]

Who knows. They should have left K&B as the server to play and just made some adjustments.

[Angkar]

Originally Posted by Rust1d? [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I understand however when people DID get real classic, they did not want it. K&B had leader boards and rewards for PVP. These things encouraged pvp. In Red 99, people avoid it at all costs. It could have been more thought out, but I think they rushed it to beat Red99.

No, you dont understand. A very LARGE group wanted the classic experience of EQ PvP. The admin of this server made every mistake possible to drive AWAY all the players.

Subject covered on several other threads, not summing them up for you, do it yourself.

[Lazortag]

Originally Posted by Rust1d? [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I understand however when people DID get real classic, they did not want it. K&B had leader boards and rewards for PVP. These things encouraged pvp. In Red 99, people avoid it at all costs. It could have been more thought out, but I think they rushed it to beat Red99.

How are K&B or "Red69" remotely classic? Both p99 servers are infinitely more classic than them. At this point you're just ignoring every post in this thread that you can't respond to.

[Rust1d?]

Originally Posted by Tippett [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Rust1d you don't know shit about this server you only made it to like level 14, not really qualified to make comments about anything other then raging after getting ganked trying to kite bandits.

Also I didn't play Red69 because the name was so retarded that I didn't even give it a try.

RED SIXTY NINE GET IT?
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I made it to lv 23 before I realized that this server was a waste of time. Not sure why you think I raged, maybe you are thinking about yourself. I left when the population went under 100.

[Rust1d?]

Originally Posted by Lazortag [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

How are K&B or "Red69" remotely classic? Both p99 servers are infinitely more classic than them. At this point you're just ignoring every post in this thread that you can't respond to.

Well, classic zones for the most part but it seems nobody wants true classic since over 600 people already left this server. Everyone praised Rogean etc as the saviors and in the end just trash him. Not sure what else people like him and image can do for you guys...