Alter End-Game Mechanics

[Fountree]

Our members have been doing all the things you said Ravager for a solid year or more. Think we were outclassed at first? We certainly were. Persistence is key, as well as good organization and committed leadership/membership. TMO has taken steps in the last month or so (unlike any other guild in server history) to open some end game content for guilds who don't necessarily want to put the time in to compete. So there you go, your problem is solved.

[bylbob]

Velious will not fix anything without a strong GM team, I have raided very little but yet I saw a lot of dirty and nasty shit going on as some officer, of a well known guild, admitted here... .If you had GMs banning left and right at each bad step (and not come back to their decision because they get facebook bombed by said peoples), the raiding scene will have come to its own solution to resolve the issue at hand pretty fast.

People claiming deejay/rav/... are jsut whinning and don't want to put the effort in it (strangely they all have a TMO tag, go figure...) are just trolling as usual because they know they did and the only reason they stopped is because what they call competition went completly out of hand, so they don't want to get involved in it anymore because after all it is just game, wich some of you seem to have forgoten.

But that's not surprising me much when you know this server is mostly popular because of FoH boards wich is heavily populated by degenerates.

Anyways pro tip to anyone wanting to beat TMO, gather 20 or so unemployed peoples or peoples able to log at any time, let TMO engage, make KS group, KS and ninja loot, 9/10 times you will get out free with loot, the 1/10 time left Amelinda will give you a tap on the hand and tell you to give back the loot, ask Stealin. Also remember to troll down any thread negative about your guild or not going your way, and cyber GMs even if you talk about them as big cow behind their back.

[falkun]

Originally Posted by Jimes [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Also, cry me a river. You guys put up about 2 weeks worth of a fight before giving up. The rest of us went through months of that before we were on top.

You've earned it, as I've admitted in other posts. But should you have had to go through that? No. If you turn around and enforce that on any other guild, you're no better than the people you sought to destroy. But you've earned your position and I'm not here to take it away from you. Enjoy your time on P99.

[Daldolma]

Originally Posted by bylbob [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Anyways pro tip to anyone wanting to beat TMO, gather 20 or so unemployed peoples or peoples able to log at any time.

This is all you needed to post, because it's the truth. 98% of raid content on this server is damn near trivial with 30 people. So if you have 20 unemployed guild members that can and will log on at any time, combined with a regular force that comes and goes, you're guaranteed to have 30+ at any given time if a raid mob is to spawn. That's all you need. There's no skill involved; there's no "competition". It pops, you have your 30 members ready to rock within minutes, and you kill it. If another guild is there too, you both kill it and 2 weeks later a GM sorts out the logs to determine whose loot it is while you both accuse the other of zerging, KSing, and cheating.

The end-game on classic EQ was so much more. It wasn't about who wanted it most -- it was about who played best. But the GMs on this server understandably cave to the squeaky wheel. The people that want it most complain the most, and the rules inevitably bend to their favor.

The worst thing in the world for TMO (and before them, IB) would be classic variances and classic enforcement of raid rules. With monstrous variance and play-nice rules, they can outlast any competition. With tiny variance and no strict enforcement of anti-training rules, etc, they'd lose out on a lot more mobs -- and likely be forced to split in the long-term, as such a massive force would be counterproductive.

[Jimes]

Yes, keep telling yourselves that it has something to do with unemployment if that dries your tears.

[Susano]

Originally Posted by Jimes [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

You guys put up about 2 weeks worth of a fight before giving up.

The competition VD received from TMO included underhanded actions like breaking into our private forums and posting RL pics of our guild leader and cherry picked comments to ridicule. Not to mention every dirty trick available in the book when it came to in game competition, which is completely denied now since the victors write the history.

You won, grats, but don't act like the fight was all above board. We gave up because we were ill equipped technically and morally to fight back.

[Jimes]

Originally Posted by Susano [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

You won. . . We gave up. . .

bye.

[Taryth]

Originally Posted by Jimes [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

People are complaining about not getting mobs, but you really just want them handed to you on a platter. There have been a couple of times in the past month or two where the servers went down and every single raid target respawned. All you guys managed to drop were what, maestro and vox? What makes you think you deserve raid content if that's the best effort you can bring to the table. Enjoy your hate clears and KC xp groups, because that's going to be your EQ experience until you pull your shit together and take what you want. If there are people on the server that want it more than you, then whose fault is that exactly?

I was going to post this in response to another post in this thread, but I decided not to. After reading for a few minutes more, I came to your post. Now it seems appropriate:


I've personally never liked raiding- too much epeen gets whipped out. People get too into it, and begin treating each other like sub-humans. "Lawyering" often crops up at this stage, as common sense and courtesy have long been abandoned.
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Any time someone is backed into a moral corner, and they know they've done/are doing something morally wrong, they will resort to rules and lawyering. Always. So it's pretty funny to see almost every member of TMO that is in this thread quoting rules, fairness, etc . . I seem to recall extremely wealthy people in RL spouting that same thing whilst they sit back and billions suffer for lack of even a little coin. Yeah, it's legal and perfectly "within the rules," but you're still an egregious piece of shit.
People are hilariously predictable. Also, disgusting.

[Splorf22]

Originally Posted by Jimes [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Why aren't you willing to play 80 hours a week like me you crazy people with jobs and social lives??

FTFY

[Jimes]

Originally Posted by Splorf22 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

FTFY

You guys must be super busy then, because it takes about 15 minutes total to log in and kill something.