Raren Loses...all the time.

[Cyrano]

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[Destructo]

Originally Posted by Cyrano [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

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Dont melt cheese infront of your computer man.

[jilena]

I find all this shit hilarious. I have grouped with people from just about every guild on this server on my cleric and my necro. I know nice people in DA, I know nice people in IB, I know nice people in Divinity, I know nice people in Trans, I know nice people in GC. And I have met people in every single one of these guilds who give off the impression that they would lie, cheat, exploit, train, ks, leapfrog, rape their mothers, spit on retarded kids, and probably sleep with those they loved knowing they had AIDS, if they thought it would let them collect more ph4tz.

I have read post after post of DA bashing the shit out of IB druids and rangers for sitting in zones waiting for mobs to spawn telling them how they have no lives and need to seek help. Yet now both of these guilds are willingly sitting large numbers of members in zones round the clock to call "dibs" on virtual loots. And it's suddenly okay and wonderful?

Here is what I gather is the reality: IB and DA are both okay with sacrificing the RL and in game time of their members to an extremely excessive degree to win at looting. In this I see both guilds as being equal. You guys can call each other douchebags and losers all you want but just about every insult flung at the opposing side could just as easily find a place where it originated. And yes I know there are special cases on both sides who exemplify all that there is to being a complete piece of shit.

That said, I think what you see here is the result of the fact that IB did it first, IB did it better, and IB has been doing it for a lot longer. The built up resentment for all things IB is lending the bullshit spewed by DA a degree of credibility it doesn't deserve. DA meets or exceeds the level of douchebaggery enacted by IB in every way possible and no matter how much either side spins it, neither one of you is the "good guy".

This doesn't mean I don't love all of you for providing me this drama to read when I am bored at work or looking for something to do while auctioning! Thank you ever so much for that!

[Gwence]

Jeffrey thinks having a tracker in a zone watching for a mob is the same as having an entire guild sitting afk in the same zone, idiocy at its finest.

We get it Jeff you're very mad and need to QQ rage. Go ahead and cry more you have all the anon poster's support to assist in your nerd rage frenzy. Be sure to continue crying about things you have zero knowledge of because those are truly the most hilarious remarks. Exploiting WC hats? Seriously? You're fucking bitching like some pms'ing teenage girl because you didnt think of it first is more likely. The raid bosses in EQ may not require the most absolute skill being that it's all been done before, but mobilizing and general organization of a guild most certainly does require intellectual and player skill among other things. Qualities you most certainly lack.

There's a phrase for people that claim to have quit playing yet remain outspoken with idiotic drivel from the outside looking in. They're called.....

A fucking loser.

[Cyrano]

Originally Posted by Gwence [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

There's a phrase for people that claim to have quit playing yet remain outspoken with idiotic drivel from the outside looking in. They're called.....

A fucking loser.

Fabulous.

[Cyrano]

Originally Posted by jilena [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I find all this shit hilarious. I have grouped with people from just about every guild on this server on my cleric and my necro. I know nice people in DA, I know nice people in IB, I know nice people in Divinity, I know nice people in Trans, I know nice people in GC. And I have met people in every single one of these guilds who give off the impression that they would lie, cheat, exploit, train, ks, leapfrog, rape their mothers, spit on retarded kids, and probably sleep with those they loved knowing they had AIDS, if they thought it would let them collect more ph4tz.

I have read post after post of DA bashing the shit out of IB druids and rangers for sitting in zones waiting for mobs to spawn telling them how they have no lives and need to seek help. Yet now both of these guilds are willingly sitting large numbers of members in zones round the clock to call "dibs" on virtual loots. And it's suddenly okay and wonderful?

Here is what I gather is the reality: IB and DA are both okay with sacrificing the RL and in game time of their members to an extremely excessive degree to win at looting. In this I see both guilds as being equal. You guys can call each other douchebags and losers all you want but just about every insult flung at the opposing side could just as easily find a place where it originated. And yes I know there are special cases on both sides who exemplify all that there is to being a complete piece of shit.

That said, I think what you see here is the result of the fact that IB did it first, IB did it better, and IB has been doing it for a lot longer. The built up resentment for all things IB is lending the bullshit spewed by DA a degree of credibility it doesn't deserve. DA meets or exceeds the level of douchebaggery enacted by IB in every way possible and no matter how much either side spins it, neither one of you is the "good guy".

This doesn't mean I don't love all of you for providing me this drama to read when I am bored at work or looking for something to do while auctioning! Thank you ever so much for that!

Jilena I think the prime difference is that IB tries to do it within the rules and fairly. DA/FB, in my experience, will employ any tactic to win including lying, training, leapfrogging, and attempting to KS.

Since I've been a member of IB, there has been one instance I feel we made the wrong choice and that involved Maestro and Remedy. To this day I regret that we didn't communicate our intentions regardless of our reasons for doing so which were misdirected at best.

On the other hand, I can't count the times I've seen DA/FB as a whole and as individuals purposely mislead players and GMs alike, train raids and groups, and blatantly try to leapfrog multiple guilds.

While you're right that there isn't a "good guy" in this race, the attitudes and demeanor of many DA/FB posters on these forums speak volumes for the truly massive gap between us in terms of maturity.

As you said, the horror stories of IB destroying this server come almost 100% from the mouth of DA/FB members. Again, I'm not pretending we haven't had our dark moments, but surely you recognize a difference in attitude and demeanor between the two parties

[Destructo]

Originally Posted by Gwence [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Jeffrey thinks having a tracker in a zone watching for a mob is the same as having an entire guild sitting afk in the same zone, idiocy at its finest.

We get it Jeff you're very mad and need to QQ rage. Go ahead and cry more you have all the anon poster's support to assist in your nerd rage frenzy. Be sure to continue crying about things you have zero knowledge of because those are truly the most hilarious remarks. Exploiting WC hats? Seriously? You're fucking bitching like some pms'ing teenage girl because you didnt think of it first is more likely. The raid bosses in EQ may not require the most absolute skill being that it's all been done before, but mobilizing and general organization of a guild most certainly does require intellectual and player skill among other things. Qualities you most certainly lack.

There's a phrase for people that claim to have quit playing yet remain outspoken with idiotic drivel from the outside looking in. They're called.....

A fucking loser.

Gwence thinks being in IB makes you cool, idiocy at its finest.

We get it Gwence you're very mad and need to QQ rage. Go ahead and cry more you have all the pathetic welfare members from IB to assist in your nerd rage frenzy. Be sure to continue crying about things you have zero knowledge of because those are truly the most hilarious remarks. Exploiting WC hats? Yes you exploited items. Seriously? You're fucking bitching like some pms'ing teenage girl because exploiting isn't allowed. The raid bosses in EQ may not require the most absolute skill being that it's all been done before, it requires absolutely no fucking skill whatsoever, even retarded monkeys could it, but mobilizing and general organization of a guild most certainly does require atleast 90% members on welfare checks and bullied highschool nerds. Qualities you most certainly have.

There's a phrase for people that claim to think killing virtual dragons 10 years later makes you cool yet still yells at their mom to make a cheese sandwiches at 5am. They're called.....

A fucking loser from Inglourious Basterds.

[Cyrano]

Originally Posted by Destructo [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Gwence thinks being in IB makes you cool, idiocy at its finest.

We get it Gwence you're very mad and need to QQ rage. Go ahead and cry more you have all the pathetic welfare members from IB to assist in your nerd rage frenzy. Be sure to continue crying about things you have zero knowledge of because those are truly the most hilarious remarks. Exploiting WC hats? Yes you exploited items. Seriously? You're fucking bitching like some pms'ing teenage girl because exploiting isn't allowed. The raid bosses in EQ may not require the most absolute skill being that it's all been done before, it requires absolutely no fucking skill whatsoever, even retarded monkeys could it, but mobilizing and general organization of a guild most certainly does require atleast 90% members on welfare checks and bullied highschool nerds. Qualities you most certainly have.

There's a phrase for people that claim to think killing virtual dragons 10 years later makes you cool yet still yells at their mom to make a cheese sandwiches at 5am. They're called.....

A fucking loser from Inglourious Basterds.

I think this validates the point I was attempting to make to Jilena.

[Cyrano]

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[Destructo]

Originally Posted by Cyrano [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Jilena I think the prime difference is that IB tries to do it within the rules and fairly. DA/FB, in my experience, will employ any tactic to win including lying, training, leapfrogging, and attempting to KS.

Since I've been a member of IB, there has been one instance I feel we made the wrong choice and that involved Maestro and Remedy. To this day I regret that we didn't communicate our intentions regardless of our reasons for doing so which were misdirected at best.

On the other hand, I can't count the times I've seen DA/FB as a whole and as individuals purposely mislead players and GMs alike, train raids and groups, and blatantly try to leapfrog multiple guilds.

While you're right that there isn't a "good guy" in this race, the attitudes and demeanor of many DA/FB posters on these forums speak volumes for the truly massive gap between us in terms of maturity.

As you said, the horror stories of IB destroying this server come almost 100% from the mouth of DA/FB members. Again, I'm not pretending we haven't had our dark moments, but surely you recognize a difference in attitude and demeanor between the two parties

Cyrano I think the prime difference is that DA/FB tries to do it within the rules and fairly. IB, in my experience, will employ any tactic to win including lying, training, leapfrogging, and attempting to KS.

Since I've been a member of IB, there has been countless instances I feel we made the wrong choice and that involved every plane boss and guild on the server. To this day I regret that we didn't communicate our intentions regardless of our reasons for doing so which were wellplaced at best.

On the other hand, I can't count the times I've seen DA/FB as a whole and as individuals purposely own IB and make them QQ.

While you're right that there isn't a "good guy" in this race, the attitudes and demeanor of many IB posters on these forums speak volumes for the truly massive gap between us in terms of maturity.

As you said, the horror stories of IB destroying this server come almost 100% from the general population of the server. Again, I'm not pretending we haven't had our dark moments, but surely you recognize a difference between a human being and a retarded sad pathetic nerd raging cheese eating faggot.