Proposed Resist System Changes - Lucy

[Lucky]

voted no but honestly idk wut im voted on

[Vayder]

Originally Posted by Splorf22 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

What exactly do those 3 numbers mean?

pvpresistbase = number you start with assuming you're equal level to caster
pvpresistmax = number you start with assuming you're max level below caster
pvpresistcalc = number you have to beat to fully resist the spell

For example, Winged Death:

pvpresistbase = -147
pvpresistmax = -170
pvpresistcalc = 134

You need 134mr to outright resist the spell. If same level as caster you start at -147 which means you need 281mr to outright resist. Which makes the spell essentially unresistable unless you are fully buffed and have a bard.

On the other hand, Wildfire:

pvpresistbase = 12
pvpresistmax = -47
pvpresistcalc = 136

You need 136fr to outright resist the spell. If same level as caster you start at 12 which means you need 124fr to outright resist. Which makes the spell possible to fully resist but difficult unless fully buffed and no debuffs have landed. However if you're 8 levels below the caster you start at -47 and need 183fr to outright resist which is really tough unless you have a bard and no debuffs.

[SamwiseBanned]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zH2kM...eature=related

old holo vs Nihilum video of mass pvp. i dont see any one spamming root. btw why was amelinda actually standing there watching?

[Splorf22]

I am not sure your data means what you think it means:

http://lucy.allakhazam.com/spellraw....33&source=Live
http://lucy.allakhazam.com/spell.htm...08&source=Test
http://lucy.allakhazam.com/spellraw....90&source=Live
http://lucy.allakhazam.com/spellraw....96&source=Test

All of the high-level roots and stuns have a resistcalc-resistbase of over 100.

[Vayder]

Originally Posted by Splorf22 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I am not sure your data means what you think it means:

http://lucy.allakhazam.com/spellraw....33&source=Live
http://lucy.allakhazam.com/spell.htm...08&source=Test
http://lucy.allakhazam.com/spellraw....90&source=Live
http://lucy.allakhazam.com/spellraw....96&source=Test

All of the high-level roots and stuns have a resistcalc-resistbase of over 100.

Right, we're just talking plain old root at 51mr. As you've noted you're going to need to have higher resists ~120 or so to be immune to the better roots / CC spells.

[Nirgon]

281mr sounds about right to resist winged death lol that's awful high. Never saw anyone resist it ever in my days except some mobs.

Sam don't call me out outside of RNF pls kthx.

[SamwiseBanned]

I think the whole thing boils down to balance vs classic. I respect your desire to have a strictly classic server and I hope that works our for you.

[Dullah]

Thats the problem, you have no understanding of whats classic, or how well it was balanced. The people that made EQ were tweaking Rallos zek and the resist tables from beta. It wasn't the afterthought people like to pretend it was so they can still maintain their hardcore badass image while hiding on blue servers.

[SamwiseBanned]

if RZ had it right why is egg shaped pumice not in game as well as fear/charm pcs? if its classic its classic yet its not here and people arent QQing about it.

[Dullah]

Because egg shaped pumice were removed soon as people started catching on. I knew only a handful of people who even had them (myself included). Its 12 years later, and everyone knew about them from launch. The only reason they were left on live was because few knew about them or had them. You can't simulate something that was unknown after its known. You'd have to find a way to distribute them to only 5% of the population.

Your retorts are dull. You're just throwing as much shit against the wall as you can hoping something will stick.