If you believe in god, you're an idiot...

[DetroitVelvetSmooth]

This thread is awful. If people want to believe in magic even though there is no compelling reason, let them.

[chtulu]

I like how people use " we can't prove there is a God....YET! But there is" arguments like it makes their superstitions any more valid than the polytheist ideas or anything equally is crazy. So if it can't be be proven than it MUST exist? If that was the case, I could interject that there is a magical tea pot floating in our solar system. Of course, it's too small to see and would never be able to be proven, but since we are using this logic, why can't my belief in the tea pot be any less valid than your man in the sky?

A good quote comes to mind here from Stephen Roberts, "I contend that we are all atheists. I just believe in one fewer god than you do. When you understand why you dismiss all the other possible gods, you will understand why I dismiss yours."

[Chanus]

Originally Posted by chtulu [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I like how people use " we can't prove there is a God....YET! But there is" arguments like it makes their superstitions any more valid than the polytheist ideas or anything equally is crazy. So if it can't be be proven than it MUST exist? If that was the case, I could interject that there is a magical tea pot floating in our solar system. Of course, it's too small to see and would never be able to be proven, but since we are using this logic, why can't my belief in the tea pot be any less valid than your man in the sky?

A good quote comes to mind here from Stephen Roberts, "I contend that we are all atheists. I just believe in one fewer god than you do. When you understand why you dismiss all the other possible gods, you will understand why I dismiss yours."

The point is that there are exactly as many facts indicating the existence of a god as there are facts indicating the non-existence of a god.

The disagreement is pointless and needlessly polarizing, and lately the atheist movement has become just as bigoted and unnecessarily hostile as theist movements have been in the past.

Why can't all the wonders of mathematics and physical sciences be our way of observing and understanding the work of a god? Why must there not be a god for there to be truth behind scientific explanations of life, existence, and the universe.

Why can't these concepts coexist?

Believing in Calabi-Yau space is exactly the same as believing in a deity, and we don't (yet) have the ability to disprove either.

[chtulu]

Originally Posted by Chanus [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

The point is that there are exactly as many facts indicating the existence of a god as there are facts indicating the non-existence of a god.

The disagreement is pointless and needlessly polarizing, and lately the atheist movement has become just as bigoted and unnecessarily hostile as theist movements have been in the past.

Why can't all the wonders of mathematics and physical sciences be our way of observing and understanding the work of a god? Why must there not be a god for there to be truth behind scientific explanations of life, existence, and the universe.

Why can't these concepts coexist?

Believing in Calabi-Yau space is exactly the same as believing in a deity, and we don't (yet) have the ability to disprove either.

The lack of proof of something does not exist is not evidence of its existence. Tell me, why do YOU think these "facts" are that proves an existence of a god?

[Chanus]

Originally Posted by chtulu [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

The lack of proof of something does not exist is not evidence of its existence. Tell me, why do YOU think these "facts" are that proves an existence of a god?

I never stated I believe there are facts that prove the existence of a god.

And while your first sentence is an oft-quoted axiom, it has no relevance to what I wrote either.

Are you able to read?

[chtulu]

Originally Posted by Chanus [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

The point is that there are exactly as many facts indicating the existence of a god as there are facts indicating the non-existence of a god.

The disagreement is pointless and needlessly polarizing, and lately the atheist movement has become just as bigoted and unnecessarily hostile as theist movements have been in the past.

Why can't all the wonders of mathematics and physical sciences be our way of observing and understanding the work of a god? Why must there not be a god for there to be truth behind scientific explanations of life, existence, and the universe.

Why can't these concepts coexist?

Believing in Calabi-Yau space is exactly the same as believing in a deity, and we don't (yet) have the ability to disprove either.

[chtulu]

as i just quoted, what are these FACTS indicating god exists? If you give me the emotional " look at the beauty of our earth" type response, i'll slap you.

[RocketMoose]

Originally Posted by chtulu [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I like how people use " we can't prove there is a God....YET! But there is" arguments like it makes their superstitions any more valid than the polytheist ideas or anything equally is crazy. So if it can't be be proven than it MUST exist? If that was the case, I could interject that there is a magical tea pot floating in our solar system. Of course, it's too small to see and would never be able to be proven, but since we are using this logic, why can't my belief in the tea pot be any less valid than your man in the sky?

A good quote comes to mind here from Stephen Roberts, "I contend that we are all atheists. I just believe in one fewer god than you do. When you understand why you dismiss all the other possible gods, you will understand why I dismiss yours."

Oh ye of little faith.

[feriokun]

Originally Posted by DetroitVelvetSmooth [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

This thread is awful. If people want to believe in magic even though there is no compelling reason, let them.

/win

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[boboo]

To me biblical/Muslim/jewish gods are transparently absurd.

If there are muslim colonists going to Gliese 581G in 400 years, i bet they will have to make sure that Gliesians understand that eating pigs makes our loving god angry. Oh wait, i bet theres no pigs on Gliese 581G. I bet you cant fuck people in the ass either.