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Old 03-28-2022, 10:51 PM
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Warriors do significantly more dps than shadowknights.
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Old 03-29-2022, 12:13 PM
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Warriors do significantly more dps than shadowknights.
I can't imagine it's that significant post melee patch in a casual grouping environment which is the context here, but if you have parses in these situations with similar gear then I'd be curious to see them.

There's just too much SK utility to give up IMO for a bit more dps especially when the enc pet is doing the large majority of it unless there's some long list of trioable mobs that require warrior def disc as i mentioned previously.
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Old 03-29-2022, 01:05 PM
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I can't imagine it's that significant post melee patch in a casual grouping environment which is the context here, but if you have parses in these situations with similar gear then I'd be curious to see them.

There's just too much SK utility to give up IMO for a bit more dps especially when the enc pet is doing the large majority of it unless there's some long list of trioable mobs that require warrior def disc as i mentioned previously.
My war does way way more dps then sk or pal /nod [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]
Especially if zerker, look out!

I would go war over sk if could only pick one just because you will always have option to progress past group content, and also epic mobs can be triod easy with war and damage shield potions so you can make $$ farming things with the trio.

I made a lot of bank in tips from tanking monk epics, druid epics etc...that garizcor dragon in DN...there's a ton of mobs really lol.. rog epic general...all kinds of $$ making opportunities on war.

Sk if bis raid gear can sort of tank some of those, but ya...would need another toon to play or guild bots cause sk on raid itself is meh besides like tagging or maybe train out jobs, most of time they asked to play clr bots on raid.

I do have an sk also and I will say soloing is a ton of fun on sk. Solo group content sk is neat /nod.
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Old 03-29-2022, 01:20 PM
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My war does way way more dps then sk or pal /nod [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]
Especially if zerker, look out!

I would go war over sk if could only pick one just because you will always have option to progress past group content, and also epic mobs can be triod easy with war and damage shield potions so you can make $$ farming things with the trio.

I made a lot of bank in tips from tanking monk epics, druid epics etc...that garizcor dragon in DN...there's a ton of mobs really lol.. rog epic general...all kinds of $$ making opportunities on war.

Sk if bis raid gear can sort of tank some of those, but ya...would need another toon to play or guild bots cause sk on raid itself is meh besides like tagging or maybe train out jobs, most of time they asked to play clr bots on raid.

I do have an sk also and I will say soloing is a ton of fun on sk. Solo group content sk is neat /nod.
In all fairness, your Warrior is fully raid geared, so of course it will do a ton of damage[You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.] I think Crede was referring to the DPS of an average geared Warrior vs. an average geared SK. Warriors should out DPS an SK in that situation due to things like crit, higher skill caps, etc., but it isn't going to be so much higher that it offsets an SK's utility and pet DPS for most content.

I 100% agree that if you want to do a lot of Epic fights and whatnot, Warrior is the better option, as those tend to require disciplines. But not everyone wants to build a character for those specific fights, which make up a small part of P99's content as a whole.
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Old 03-29-2022, 04:59 PM
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but ya...would need another toon to play or guild bots cause sk on raid itself is meh besides like tagging or maybe train out jobs, most of time they asked to play clr bots on raid.
This is mostly true, but you will also be asked to get off your under geared warrior to hop on a cleric a lot of the time.

I will say, for raiding, SKs are excellent in plane of fear, serviceable for train outs, tagging and great trash tanks in NToV. The raid doesn't need them, but they can be very solid and most high end guilds will have very few active SK mains.

That being said, I'd suggest obviously suggest Warrior over SK if raiding is a big interest.
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Old 03-29-2022, 05:04 AM
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I mean if the enchanter is charming who cares about the tank DPS.
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Old 03-29-2022, 07:44 AM
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It doesn't matter for the trio. Just in what the actual player behind the SK or Warrior wants.

If you wanna be strong pre 60 w/o gear, SK. If you're playing the long game and will be acquiring raid gear, just go warrior.
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Old 03-29-2022, 11:43 AM
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If i were xp'ing in this trio I'd take a war over an SK any day. I'd rather just have the war pull 2-3 mobs at a time then wait for this DeathsSilkyMist guy to click his 10 second FD pants for a few minutes just to bring 1 mob back lol

This is the same person who is willing to spend 20 minutes fear kiting a single skeleton for XP tho so I don't think we are really on the same page
This is such a bad attempt at an insult. Clearly you have no idea how the game works. But since your "glory days" were on the Red Server, that doesn't surprise me. It's been dead for how long now?[You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.] SK's can pull much faster than that, and the FD pants are only a 3 second cast. I am not sure where you think I spend 20 minutes fear kiting a single skeleton lol. I have video proof on my Youtube for how long it takes me to solo in Howling Stones.

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It doesn't matter for the trio. Just in what the actual player behind the SK or Warrior wants.

If you wanna be strong pre 60 w/o gear, SK. If you're playing the long game and will be acquiring raid gear, just go warrior.
Toxigen is correct, in this Trio and for OP's specific needs it doesn't really matter. SK would be better if OP plans on just sticking to normal group content. If he is ever worried about his character's future (raiding or helping people with Epic Quest Mobs), then roll Warrior to be safe.
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Old 03-29-2022, 02:54 PM
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And lets face it the real answer OP is looking for is monk.
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Old 03-29-2022, 02:58 PM
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And lets face it the real answer OP is looking for is monk.
Ha I agree from a performance perspective but a hybrid with clarity 24/7 in this case is going to be more fun spamming spells imo
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