What EQ PvP is about

[Rushmore]

Originally Posted by SearyxTZ [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Pvp exp loss is one of those things that nobody wanted in the first place and that all I ever see on the forums is calling for it to be removed. Nildog should absolutely ditch that and I'm sure no tears would be shed.


It's a nonsensical no-reward feature that actually lends to griefing, discourages pvp, and forces more grinding.

If someone put up a poll on it I bet it would landslide at something like 90/10 to just remove it.

put up the poll then sir!

[Zozo]

I'm hard as fuck.

Fuck. Yes.

[SamwiseBanned]

only people who want item loot are people who dont play and wizards.

[Dullah]

Originally Posted by SearyxTZ [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Dullah: I agree EQ is a PvE game first. In fact it was a PvE game where they basically just flipped the PvP switch and it happened to work really damn well. Of course almost every MMO since then has ignored that awesomeness in favor of a clean PvE/PvP split and leaning heavily on instancing (ie: death to world pvp), but that's another conversation.

You should really acknowledge that the "counterstrike with elves" players are a sizable contingent (probably the larger one) of the red population. Red servers need both the PvE-first people and the PvP-first people. The classic red servers accommodated both crowds, believe it or not.

I acknowledge they are the more vocal, but more sizable, not even close. Even if half the players at launch actually had no intention of staying after being griefed and harassed for a month, those that were left over were still predominantly the "pve-first" crowd. Truth be told, many of the people, esp on the forums that later mocked bluebies claiming to be hardcore pvpers, were the biggest bluebies. Take a look at LoZ and their forums for further evidence.

We do need both crowds for the server to grow. A splintered pvp community is a lonely one. EQ PvP was almost sandbox in that, though you couldn't manipulate the world, everything else in an open world game like EQ could be controlled and determined by players. It takes all kinds, and as long as respect is shown from both sides, theres no reason it shouldn't thrive given half a chance by an active staff.

[SamwiseRed]

pics were nice, decent thread. Kinda like Destin after reading him slap his dick all overs HBs face. if only I was deceived by HB i could have enjoyed this thread a lot sooner.

[Erebus]

I wish 3 things about PvP:

1 - yellow text (this is server-wide pvp kill/death message right?)
2 - no exp loss
3 - full or partial inventory, but not equipment, loot. fuck your clickies.

[hagard]

Originally Posted by heartbrand [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

if I wanted that rush from raiding I'd be on live. I'm here for pvp. thx

What a gem

[Tippett]

exp loss on pvp still dumb imo

[heartbrand]

Waited up to 230am for PVP tonight and got it [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

[Rettii]

Originally Posted by heartbrand [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

destin perpetually mad that he was a non-factor on this server and wasn't even level 10 when the big boys were out PVPing. still asking Cast for permission to grind the hermit in SK bro? It's ok your butt will eventually heal from the wounds pal

I laughed at this a lot, because now you guys are blowing each other

Originally Posted by Nirgon [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

You know on Rallos I could fight:

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and get

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just saying and you know it.