The absolute state of AI results.

[shovelquest]

"Your pretend pantheon makes zero difference, It's just that someone (NOT THE ANTICHRIST!!) will use it to control us and make us all worship him."

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[Duik]

I saw a futurist show on discovery channel back in the 2000s and it talked about how AI would be better as a goverment than a democracy because if southern cali...

Agreed. But whos in charge of the A.I?
Diverting water isnt a simple thing. Turning a slow flowninto a swamp fundamentally changes whole biomes. Australia has been through this. Murray/Darling was/is still difficult. Throw in large corps that grow crops/harvest power and it becomes even more complex.

So yes. A.I could divide resources better.
Depending on who is in cahrge of the A.I.

That last sentence is by far the most important and one concept you seem to be missing.

[shovelquest]

Originally Posted by Duik [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Agreed. But whos in charge of the A.I?

Well it can ask us to do polls and we can believe that it matters like we do now.

Like, I literally have zero control over where water goes now even if I voted on that as a single issue voter.

With AI prob best to have people be able to like, step into varous rolls when they want to to fix things and then go back to AI controlling it.

Like, "ai has no idea how bad we want a lake in the middle of californai" so the towns get together elect a policy, and then the AI builds a big lake. idk something like that.


AI could probably even do the math to figure out all the different issues building a lake might effect, environmental, housing etc, and mediate debates between the groups, until votes are made.

Could even publicize news about the discussion, and deliver any info you could need about it.

It could theoretically be possible that you could talk to the AI as an individual, at any time, and it'd be like talking literally to the president. And it could literally parse and take compassionate and pragmatic arguments into consideration from everyone at once.

[Duik]

The A.I will be controlled by *someone* as a technical exercise A.I may do very well.
However it can only learn what we tell it.
If we as humans mismanage it (and we do), A.I by extention will too!
Again. The A.I will be controlled by someone, the someones who control it so far have shown little regard for anything but themselves.
Stealing training data. It will dies wiffout it! Wont somebody think of the silicon baby!
So no fanks. Keep it for collating large datasets. Discerning cancerous cells in a million photos per second. And yes Ekco, elf boobies.

[shovelquest]

Ok, you keep saying someone and im never going to stop saying that you're literally talking about the antichrist if you don't identify who that person might be.

There are "someone"'s in control of everything right now and we seem to be doing pretty well.

Ai is definitely able to learn and grow on its own.

You'd want to build and train an AI goverment in the public, not in the private like you're imagining too.

Also if you think Im trying to suggest that you will live in a world where there is an AI goverment you're vastly over estemating humans ability to change.
This would be more like either on mars or after a nuclear war and entierly new goverments need to be built.

No way any of our dumb asses are capable of building, implementing, or agreeing on anything that we'd need for this to happen.

We're so far from an AI that could manage a government. Maybe at best 2060s

We're probubly going to do the nuke option.

[Duik]

So you think the people who are in charge now wish to give control to anyone/anything else?
Your brain is bleeding if you think that is true.
The guys who made the A.I will want their cut. Also it is widely known they all believe they are superiour to us Thousandaires.
This is not a "they" or a "them" conspiracy. This is fact. They do it now. None of them have shown any sort of benevolence so far. I dont see it changing anytime soon. They offer scraps and promises.
Long water tube with an inflatable swan sounds like the best (and only) idea you've had.

[shovelquest]

the people who are in control now are not the same people that were in control 30 years ago so no I am not worried about any of them.

Like sam altman was literally a nobody 10 years ago living in a 1 bedroom apartment he shared with someone else.

Zuckerberg came from the middle class.

In america the billionares today are litreally just poor kids from yesterday.

Music, movies, science, technology, all of them, led by ultra rich formally regular people.

MR beast is like how rich? and he hasn't even worked yet. And his parents were public school teachers.

[Duik]

Its ok if you think being a trash person and rhen getting wealthy is good.
It will just allow me to think even less of you.

[Reiwa]

Originally Posted by Duik [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Its ok if you think being a trash person and rhen getting wealthy is good.
It will just allow me to think even less of you.

So like, moralistic condescension?

I wonder how long I've been in Hell.

[shovelquest]

Originally Posted by Reiwa [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

So like, moralistic condescension?

I wonder how long I've been in Hell.

It's alright, he just wants to murder me.