If you believe in god, you're an idiot...

[RocketMoose]

Originally Posted by Chanus [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Uhmm.. The Soviet Union ring a bell?

What does that have to do with Jesus?

[Chanus]

Originally Posted by RocketMoose [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

What does that have to do with Jesus?

Communist Russia (ie: The Soviet Union) was anti-religious, to the point of massacring people. It pertains to this:

[QUTOE="cthulu"]When was the last time you heard of a mass cleansing in the name of atheism?[/quote]

[RocketMoose]

Originally Posted by chtulu [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

What about how religion encroaches on civil rights? Modern example; gay rights. What about all the horrible things done IN THE NAME of religion? When was the last time you heard of a mass cleansing in the name of atheism?

In what way does religion encroach on gay rights?

I don't approve of homosexuality, but I don't disapprove of the homosexuals themselves. Read what I wrote before, it's not the PERSON that's the issue, it's their sin, some people are just more repulsed by it than they are by other sins. The Bible calls it an abomination, but doesn't call the PERSON an abomination.

I'm sure this is a lot for you to grasp though.

Also, the modern "church" is not Jesus, it's not God, in fact in a lot of ways it's a terrible misrepresentation of God and His love.

There are a lot of bigots masquerading as Christians, don't be fooled. People hide behind "religion" but look at Jesus, He went into the church and turned it upside down because the "church" was hosting gambling and games. Jesus wasn't even approved by the "church" in fact it was the "church" who wanted Jesus crucified...

[Hoggen]

Originally Posted by chtulu [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

What about how religion encroaches on civil rights? Modern example; gay rights. What about all the horrible things done IN THE NAME of religion? When was the last time you heard of a mass cleansing in the name of atheism?

Are you ever going to stop spouting crap? What do you think one of the central premises of Marxist-Leninism is? I suppose you've never heard of Stalin, Mao, or Pol Pot? Get a clue and stick to playing ten year old free games.

[john_savage1982]

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neckbeard says:

can I join your debate bros? I'm a logical atheist too.

[Chanus]

gdi... Quote, not Qutoe

RAMSES! LET MY PEOPLE EDIT!

[RocketMoose]

Originally Posted by Chanus [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

gdi... Quote, not Qutoe

RAMSES! LET MY PEOPLE EDIT!

Ah, sorry, my bad.

[boboo]

And another Dayglo Abortions song, for good measure:

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[Chanus]

To be fair, the logical extension that everyone who died before Jesus was born (and therefore could not accept his divinity) is in Hell is just stupid.

[RocketMoose]

Originally Posted by Chanus [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

To be fair, the logical extension that everyone who died before Jesus was born (and therefore could not accept his divinity) is in Hell is just stupid.

No one said that. If you recall that the Old Testament was pre Jesus, and it didn't say they all went to Hell, if you'll remember some were even called to Heaven without dying, and got to ride up in a Chariot of Fire...

There was still God then, there was just a different form of communicating. See, there is no remission of sins without the shedding of blood. It's been that way from the beginning, so people gave of their best, and sacrificed it, whether it was their best lamb, their best goat, whatever they had. They gave their best, but when Jesus came, He didn't eliminate the sacrifice, he just paid the ultimate sacrifice so no more blood was to be shed.

So I don't know why anyone would say this, or believe this, I agree that's just stupid.