[Serious] Lets talk Top raiding guilds and their behavior

[Allishia]

Love the casual raid guilds, but be real, you guys are not tracking and being competitive anywhere near the level of riot/ag/freedom. Different leagues and that's all there is to it.

I've spent countless hours on fte engage teams waiting for dragons, don't compare snagging a few spawns on a quake to the effort competitive raiders put in. Most do put in time and earn their loot. Call it neck beard or whatever but I put in time and earned my stuff.

Hope you don't hate me for my opinion but ya it's annoying constantly seeing input from guilds that don't even compete and if tov windows were on weekdays, you wouldn't even be in tov. It's just convenient the quakes have been consistently on weekends for like the last year lol.

Be happy for all the easy free pixels and unlimited attempts at dragons you get while we are banned and shhhh please, thank you [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

This is a very frustrating time for people who play to raid. All I wanna do is tank the stupid dragons!

[xdrcfrx]

Originally Posted by Allishia [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Love the casual raid guilds, but be real, you guys are not tracking and being competitive anywhere near the level of riot/ag/freedom. Different leagues and that's all there is to it.

I've spent countless hours on fte engage teams waiting for dragons, don't compare snagging a few spawns on a quake to the effort competitive raiders put in. Most do put in time and earn their loot. Call it neck beard or whatever but I put in time and earned my stuff.

Hope you don't hate me for my opinion but ya it's annoying constantly seeing input from guilds that don't even compete and if tov windows were on weekdays, you wouldn't even be in tov. It's just convenient the quakes have been consistently on weekends for like the last year lol.

Be happy for all the easy free pixels and unlimited attempts at dragons you get while we are banned and shhhh please, thank you [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

This is a very frustrating time for people who play to raid. All I wanna do is tank the stupid dragons!

so then do you not expect those guilds to also abide by the rules that you're suggesting should be created without any of their input? If they're just as bound by the rules as you are, then they should have every right to be part of deciding what those rules are.

so sorry that this is a very frustrating time for you, but telling the people that play the game a different way than you "shhh please" (e.g.: sit down and know your place) is not the most becoming of attitudes.

Get over yourself.

[Dreenk317]

Originally Posted by xdrcfrx [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

so then do you not expect those guilds to also abide by the rules that you're suggesting should be created without any of their input? If they're just as bound by the rules as you are, then they should have every right to be part of deciding what those rules are.

so sorry that this is a very frustrating time for you, but telling the people that play the game a different way than you "shhh please" (e.g.: sit down and know your place) is not the most becoming of attitudes.

Get over yourself.

No one but the GM's can make rules. The GM's asked AG/F/R to come up with an AGREEMENT that all three could abide by in an attempt to reduce petitions between these three guilds.

The GM's want a server rule to fall back on for guilds that dont join, or end up leaving the agreement. And only the GM's are making those rules. Relax....


And ya, if your not racing for fte, or coth racing for engage, or at the very least actively tracking the spawn. Why should you have input on the agreement that might affect these things? You probably also arent aware of the specific strategies employed, or mechanics of these fights that lead to the surplus of petitions.

Thats like me being not a pilot and feeling I have any sort of right to decide what makes a qualified pilot. Have I ridden in planes? Sure, but that doesnt mean i actually know anything about what it takes to fly one.

[MarauderOHHYEAH]

Alli, your not the only one who has sat on race lines for 16 hours when the spawn goes late in window... kittens has and will continue to sock targets each week... just because we don't sock ALL of the mobs each week doesn't dimish the weigh of our opinions.

That said... galach asked ag/ f / r to come up with base server rules for guilds to follow outside of rotations that everyone.. repeat everyone have to follow... kittens deserves to have input if we are going to be expected to follow these rules as well

[Ripqozko]

Originally Posted by MarauderOHHYEAH [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Alli, your not the only one who has sat on race lines for 16 hours when the spawn goes late in window... kittens has and will continue to sock targets each week... just because we don't sock ALL of the mobs each week doesn't dimish the weigh of our opinions.

That said... galach asked ag/ f / r to come up with base server rules for guilds to follow outside of rotations that everyone.. repeat everyone have to follow... kittens deserves to have input if we are going to be expected to follow these rules as well

Vs isn’t tov

[MarauderOHHYEAH]

Tov doesn't have race lines? I mean... you can sit at zone in and wait for a coth i guess

[Ripqozko]

Originally Posted by MarauderOHHYEAH [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Tov doesn't have race lines? I mean... you can sit at zone in and wait for a coth i guess

And they do. Hope this helps.

[MarauderOHHYEAH]

Your always so helpful... im a little disappointed you didn't finish with "sorry you don't have warder loot"

[Psyborg]

Originally Posted by MarauderOHHYEAH [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Alli, your not the only one who has sat on race lines for 16 hours when the spawn goes late in window... kittens has and will continue to sock targets each week... just because we don't sock ALL of the mobs each week doesn't dimish the weigh of our opinions.

That said... galach asked ag/ f / r to come up with base server rules for guilds to follow outside of rotations that everyone.. repeat everyone have to follow... kittens deserves to have input if we are going to be expected to follow these rules as well

Any guild that wants a say in what inevitably happens should delete pixels from mobs that popped during the suspension and then agree to be suspended with us. I personally agree that Kittens and Co should have some input, but at the same price we are paying. The issue with doing it any other way is that you would have a vote in the discussions and every reason to prolong this indefinitely. A bit of a conflict of interest there.

[Ripqozko]

Originally Posted by MarauderOHHYEAH [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Your always so helpful... im a little disappointed you didn't finish with "sorry you don't have warder loot"

It is already known , even I take a break from trolling . I’m not sure why y’all are so outraged , the GMs made the decision what can you do. Just enjoy the raiding you got atm and stop wiping to hosh.