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Old 09-06-2022, 02:58 PM
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Napkin math perfectly matches real life situations at all times right guys? Raise your hand if you've ever been in a group where a shaman has done anywhere near a mage's dps. I'll wait.
In a game yes, you can easily math this stuff out. I am still waiting on your answer as to why you think being in a group changes the math.
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Old 09-06-2022, 02:57 PM
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We get it: shamans are the 2nd best class in the game. Nobody is denying they're awesome.

But they do not, and should not, be outdpsing a mage -- a class made almost exclusively for DPS.

What is wrong with conceding your point, DSM? Have some fucking grace, and bow out of this thread already.
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Old 09-06-2022, 02:59 PM
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Anecdotal, but I was in a Chardok CE group with a shaman, Druid(me), and two gnome mages. Those two mages were absolutely blasting everything. I had done a few different groups and compositions at that camp for a while but that one really sticks out to me as crazy high DPS
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Old 09-06-2022, 03:01 PM
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Isn't it obvious, you fool?!

There are other people contributing to the DPS.

If this group contains a bard in full mana pumping mode, and an enchanter giving clarity, then mage blows shaman even harder out of the water.

Are you insane?!
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Old 09-06-2022, 03:05 PM
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Isn't it obvious, you fool?!

There are other people contributing to the DPS.

If this group contains a bard in full mana pumping mode, and an enchanter giving clarity, then mage blows shaman even harder out of the water.

Are you insane?!
Why are you taking my question so literally? Of course DPS increases in a group. That wasn't what I was asking, and I havent said otherwise.

You can still math this stuff out lol. If your group does 200 DPS, it can kill a mob with 8000 HP in 40 seconds. That means you cab determine average DPS of nukes and pet DPS in that time.
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Old 09-06-2022, 03:04 PM
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What about a bard and three wizards?
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Old 09-06-2022, 03:05 PM
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So we already saw a lazy mage fight. Here’s what a 2 nuke fight looks like:

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Total med time necessary to create this magic? 90 seconds.
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Old 09-06-2022, 03:08 PM
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Because you completely ignore surrounding elements whilst you calculate DPS for shaman.

It's why you said root rotting was a good idea, and even entertained my analogy about bard and wizard doing some quadding in a 6 man group, whilst the other 4 do the regular stuff that any sane person would do.

Situations like this do not, and should not, happen within this game.
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Old 09-06-2022, 03:12 PM
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What are the surrounding elements? That is what I am asking. What do you think is changing the math in a group that cant be captured solo?
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Old 09-06-2022, 03:12 PM
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threads get locked after it hits 1000 pages, we should be there in a month, DSM will carry this to 1000.
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