ASOIAF / Game of Thrones (SPOILERS INSIDE)

[SHOWITME]

was expecting a much better way for that barriston selmy guy (spelling?) to die, for a guy as supposedly badass as him, it was really lame

[Sirken]

you can absolutely do the show without patchface, just keep watching.

i dont think Meryn will kill Mace. if the show kills Mace it will be to give the Tyrells extra ammo to go after Cersei. but if Arya kills Meryn before he leaves Braavos, then Cersel cant really be blamed, as she can say she sent a Kingsguard and even he was slain in the protection of Mace. so i dont expect Mace to die, although i could see Arya unknowingly saving Mace by killing Meryn shortly before Mace is set to die.

[holahouze]

Sorry, i was being a wisea$$. Would not miss Patchface one bit... oh oh oh

My read is Cersei was getting rid of Mace literally. She's unhinged and isn't too concerned about offending Tyrells. Mace is dim and unsuspecting, but Oleanna will sniff that plot out. I think Meryn in Braavos will be too much for Arya to pass up. Arya's revenge could buy Cersei more time - true.

[Sirken]

Fool's blood. King's blood, blood on the maiden's thigh, but chains for the guests and chains for the bridegroom, aye, aye, aye.

things like this^ make me wonder a lot about good old Patches, cause he clearly knew the red wedding was incoming. then that what raven calls him "lord"

[MrSparkle001]

I just finished season 4 episode 5. Why are they changing so much from the books? Why is Jon going north to Craster's Keep instead of being hobbled with an injury at Castle Black? Why does Lysa know who Sansa is? Where is Coldhands?

I expect some changes from the book, just like with LOTR, but wow.

[Sirken]

oh, it doesnt get better in regards to changes

[holahouze]

This is old business, but since Mace is off to meet with the Iron Bank, I'm wondering... Any thoughts on why the showrunners depict the Lannisters as being broke // their gold mined out??

[Sirken]

im not sure if thats a spoiler, or a blatant change from the book. either way, i think the purpose of it is to further emphasize that Tywin was literally the only thing in the world keeping his family at its status, and now that hes gone, that family will crumble down brick by brick.

[Tiggles]

Originally Posted by holahouze [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

This is old business, but since Mace is off to meet with the Iron Bank, I'm wondering... Any thoughts on why the showrunners depict the Lannisters as being broke // their gold mined out??

Originally Posted by Sirken [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

im not sure if thats a spoiler, or a blatant change from the book. either way, i think the purpose of it is to further emphasize that Tywin was literally the only thing in the world keeping his family at its status, and now that hes gone, that family will crumble down brick by brick.

I think the Lannisters are broke in the book as well I can definitly get behind Tywin keeping up the appearence to keep his family in power with his gold mines dwindling.

They needed a reason for Ser Maryn Trunt to go to Bravos so Arya can murder him in place of Daeron. I think Mace is actually an afterthought actually it's Trunt who is the one who needed to go to Bravos.

Also, I hate the new sandsnakes and I don't think Bronn is going to make it out alive.

R.I.P Ser Grandpa as well.

[holahouze]

Originally Posted by Tiggles [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I think the Lannisters are broke in the book as well I can definitly get behind Tywin keeping up the appearence to keep his family in power with his gold mines dwindling.

They needed a reason for Ser Maryn Trunt to go to Bravos so Arya can murder him in place of Daeron. I think Mace is actually an afterthought actually it's Trunt who is the one who needed to go to Bravos.

Also, I hate the new sandsnakes and I don't think Bronn is going to make it out alive.

R.I.P Ser Grandpa as well.

I felt like Selmy might be killed at Battle of Meereen based on twow chapter - hated to see him go down in an alley. Looked and fought like a badass though.

My first thought on Tywin saying they were broke was to put more pressure on Cersei to play ball and marry Loras. Just don't see them broke, book-wise. But, the Lannisters are going down.

Cersei assigned Trant to Mace for a reason -- with bad intentions. A simple shove while at sea would do it. Maybe Cersei doesn't go that far, but she's winning battles, not the war. I agree, Arya & Trant will meet.

The Iron Bank is in an interesting position, backing Stannis and all.