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Old 09-06-2022, 05:16 PM
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Guys: have you ever had a group where a shaman asked to root rot adds on the side of whatever else the group was doing?

No? Then I rest my case.
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Old 09-06-2022, 05:19 PM
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Guys: have you ever had a group where a shaman asked to root rot adds on the side of whatever else the group was doing?

No? Then I rest my case.
The reason why people don't do this is because most groups can hit the optimal DPS threshold for what they are fighting easily. It is not because people dislike root/rotting.

The reality is it is very easy to hit the optimal DPS threshold on P99 because most people are experienced players with gear that is above a mob's tuned average.

This is why bringing a Mage for only 7-30 DPS is generally silly. You will often times lose 7-30 DPS just by not gear checking players when making a public group.
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Old 09-06-2022, 05:20 PM
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Guys: have you ever had a group where a shaman asked to root rot adds on the side of whatever else the group was doing?

No? Then I rest my case.
Never. Not once. Ever.
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Old 09-06-2022, 05:20 PM
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The reason why people don't do this is because most groups can hit the optimal DPS threshold for what they are fighting easily. It is not because people dislike root/rotting.

The reality is it is very easy to hit the optimal DPS threshold on P99 because most people are experienced players with gear that is above a mob's tuned average.

This is why bringing a Mage for only 7-30 DPS is generally silly. You will often times lose 7-30 DPS just by not gear checking players when making a public group.
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Old 09-06-2022, 05:22 PM
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The reason why people don't do this is because most groups can hit the optimal DPS threshold for what they are fighting easily. It is not because people dislike root/rotting.

The reality is it is very easy to hit the optimal DPS threshold on P99 because most people are experienced players with gear that is above a mob's tuned average.

This is why bringing a Mage for only 7-30 DPS is generally silly. You will often times lose 7-30 DPS just by not gear checking players when making a public group.
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Old 09-06-2022, 05:23 PM
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Lol at this joker still insisting shamans are only 7-30dps lower than a mage.

I’d be impressed if sustained over time in a fast moving group a shaman and it’s pet could beat only a level 60 hasted/buffed/mask’s backstabbing water pet chain casting 116 dd proc nukes with the mage otherwise afk and not nuking.

No more napkin math. Do it. Prove it.
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Old 09-06-2022, 05:23 PM
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Lol at this joker still insisting shamans are only 7-30dps lower than a mage
That is what your own data is showing[You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.] You could provide more at any time.
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Old 09-06-2022, 05:24 PM
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You still haven't answered why you think the numbers change.
You still haven't provided any relevant/requested data of your Shaman DPSing in a high level fast-paced killing DPS group.

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Please do not straw man me with saying "more members = more DPS". Nobody is suggesting otherwise.
Nobody is requesting solo root rot information, yet that is all you seem willing (or able) to provide. Please do not straw man us with irrelevant data.

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You need to explain why 100 DPS solo differs from 100 DPS in a group.
The problem is you have provided zero evidence of your Shaman DPSing in a group, you need to provide requested/relevant data/evidence.

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You need to explain why spending 275 mana solo differs from spending 275 mana in a group.
What you seem to misunderstand (or perhaps you are [intentionally or otherwise] misconstruing your true understanding?) is that nobody is stating "275 mana solo differs from 275 mana in a group". Why does someone need to explain this to you, precisely? Please do not straw man us with irrelevant data.
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Old 09-06-2022, 05:25 PM
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That is what your own data is showing[You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.] You could provide more at any time.
You have misunderstood/misinterpreted and are continuing to ignore the data, as has been pointed out to you multiple times by multiple people. This really isn't hard hehe. [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]
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Old 09-06-2022, 05:27 PM
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You have misunderstood/misinterpreted and are continuing to ignore the data, as has been pointed out to you multiple times by multiple people. This really isn't hard hehe. [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]
You could do your own math and show it, instead of copy/pasting nonsense.

The problem is every time other people try to do the math themselves, they do it wrong, and I prove that they did it wrong. Troxx still hasn't been able to counter the points I made earlier today.
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