Raid Suspendion TMO (Repealed) - Page 19

arsenalpow · #1 03-02-2015, 05:52 PM

I want people to burn on intent generally. The shit TMO is generally accused of isn't derpy stalling/kiting, it's generally "oops this train came out of no where" kind of shit, or blatant stalling like kiting gorgalosk in a circle for 10 minutes. I could literally pull all my petitions regarding that kind of thing and intent is pretty clear on each of them.

The other front I typically argue on is "good of the server" type of stuff. For example: which is a precursor to the eventual rule we have now disallowing trackers from FTEing a target.

Socratic · #2 03-02-2015, 06:15 PM

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I want people to burn on intent generally. The shit TMO is generally accused of isn't derpy stalling/kiting, it's generally "oops this train came out of no where" kind of shit, or blatant stalling like kiting gorgalosk in a circle for 10 minutes. I could literally pull all my petitions regarding that kind of thing and intent is pretty clear on each of them.

The other front I typically argue on is "good of the server" type of stuff. For example: which is a precursor to the eventual rule we have now disallowing trackers from FTEing a target.

This is total bullshit. The overwhelming majority of petitions against TMO are for split-second screwups(the gore screwup we are suspended for was sabotage btw, not that you care), or born from ignorance about the mechanics involved (just to get IB a free week, most of the time they don't work so you never see them). You come onto these forums each and every time and call for the penalty to be more harsh without ever knowing wtf even happened.

You're just as bad as Tiggles. The difference is that Tiggles is just noise. You actually lead your guild. Scary imo.

Your guild pulled Sev in the opposite direction of a normal pull, thus confusing the shit out of everyone else, and allowing you to effectively stall your pull for several minutes. A screwup you didn't intend? Sure. Still a stall? Yep.

Man up. You're being a punk.

arsenalpow · #3 03-02-2015, 06:18 PM

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This is total bullshit. The overwhelming majority of petitions against TMO are for split-second screwups(the gore screwup we are suspended for was sabotage btw, not that you care), or born from ignorance about the mechanics involved (just to get IB a free week, most of the time they don't work so you never see them). You come onto these forums each and every time and call for the penalty to be more harsh without ever knowing wtf even happened.

You're just as bad as Tiggles. The difference is that Tiggles is just noise. You actually lead your guild. Scary imo.

Your guild pulled Sev in the opposite direction of a normal pull, thus confusing the shit out of everyone else, and allowing you to effectively stall your pull for several minutes. A screwup you didn't intend? Sure. Still a stall? Yep.

Man up. You're being a punk.

I don't give a shit about TMO and IB playing petitionQuest, there's a reason we aren't class C.

Pulling a dragon to a zonewall then moving down that zonewall to the raid is relatively normal for wipe open zones that are tough to navigate. I've seen that as SOP for Talendor as well.

arsenalpow · #4 03-02-2015, 06:03 PM

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Honestly, if you were honest with yourself. You'd admit right now that the only recent problems you had with TMO was when you leapfrogged them. Which I get it. Way in the past you got leapfrogged by another iteration of TMO. So you felt justified in that situation. Old grudges are hard to get rid of. I think the only other issues that comes to my mind is Nagafen which involved both the guilds.

If you would look around the server more often instead of holding onto those grudges. You would see it's a lot healthier now. I mean we all feel our punishments are unjustified when we get punished. However, at least there is a checks and balance system there that is visible now and it can be worked with.

I have no idea what you're talking about.

arsenalpow · #5 03-02-2015, 06:16 PM

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Fear. Dinacarl.

Nagafen. Suspension.

The 2 things you threw the biggest fit about in the last year.

Dinacarl situation was Unbrella calling a code red. 100% intent there, I still have the vent recordings of Unbrella saying "oh he was pulling to our AE group and something happened, oops" That's 100% intent.

The Nagafen situation was a bullshit suspension that came down from corrupt as fuck Derubael, so no surprises there.

Socratic · #6 03-02-2015, 06:23 PM

I doubt any non-RnF warrior with integrity really claimed that the fear nonsense was an "oops". What was debated was whether your fear AE leapfrog deserved a week+ suspension for our entire guild because of a situation with a group of... 3-4? TMO players.

What was the Nagafen thing? Was that the time you and Taken both had trackers at the spawn but you still helped them get their kill, essentially making it a joint raid with more than 2 trackers at the spawn? Because that's a prime example of your shitty leadership breaking the rules and not owning up.

If TMO tried to get more than 2 trackers/fte'rs at a spawn you'd be going apeshit. It's supposed to be ok though because it's BDA right?

Zero fucking integrity.

captnamazing · #7 03-02-2015, 06:27 PM

socratic is a faggot

Detoxx · #8 03-02-2015, 06:33 PM

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What was the Nagafen thing? Was that the time you and Taken both had trackers at the spawn but you still helped them get their kill, essentially making it a joint raid with more than 2 trackers at the spawn? Because that's a prime example of your shitty leadership breaking the rules and not owning up.

If TMO tried to get more than 2 trackers/fte'rs at a spawn you'd be going apeshit. It's supposed to be ok though because it's BDA right?

Zero fucking integrity.

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Socratic · #9 03-02-2015, 06:27 PM

If a TMO puller pulled Sev to FoB like a noob, people would be annoyed as fuck that the person just wasted their time. Leadership would announce in the zone that we forfeit the dragon, and we would leave.

BDA clearly doesn't have leadership with strength of character.

arsenalpow · #10 03-02-2015, 06:30 PM

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If a TMO puller pulled Sev to FoB like a noob, people would be annoyed as fuck that the person just wasted their time. Leadership would announce in the zone that we forfeit the dragon, and we would leave.

BDA clearly doesn't have leadership with strength of character.

bullshit, your leaders have zero integrity, this is why you have a dedicated RnF spin team and fleet of PetitionQuest Lawyers to dispute any/every raid encounter you've ever been in