Shadow knight aggro

[DeathsSilkyMist]

Originally Posted by Guesty07 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Let's go back to that 8.33% chance, that stuff had me rolling

The 8.33% chance to automatically taunt while spamming is still true based on the 50% chance of success from my dataset of 9000 taunts. You have done nothing to counter this point. This is just basic math.

[bcbrown]

Originally Posted by DeathsSilkyMist [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

The 8.33% chance to automatically taunt while spamming is still true based on the 50% chance of success from my dataset of 9000 taunts. You have done nothing to counter this point. This is just basic math.

I think it's much closer to 4%, perhaps even 2%. Do you care to summarize your math again? Still happy to stipulate a 50% innate success rate.

[DeathsSilkyMist]

Originally Posted by bcbrown [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I think it's much closer to 4%, perhaps even 2%. Do you care to summarize your math again? Still happy to stipulate a 50% innate success rate.

50% divided by 6 seconds is 8.33%. You are correct the real number is lower, but that is also true for the 50% taunt chance. There are numerous factors that reduce the chance for spammed taunt and strategic taunt to work in equal proportion. There is an X percent chance for the mob to be out of melee range, for example. If that ends up being 5%, you would reduce both 8.33 and 50 by 5%. This ends up being 7.88 and 47.5. The 5% is just a random number, not real data just to be clear.

You use the 8.33% chance and the 50% chance as base numbers to see the discrepancy between the two in the perfect scenario, while accepting you generally will not be in the perfect scenario.

[Guesty07]

You think I use taunt button to get a mob flipped to melee dps back to me? Rofl

[DeathsSilkyMist]

Originally Posted by Guesty07 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

You think I use taunt button to get a mob flipped to melee dps back to me? Rofl

Originally Posted by Guesty07 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

That isn't what taunt is for on a shadow Knight bud

Two more troll posts for your history. Keep digging yourself further into that hole. Hopefully you will realize that you aren't convincing anybody with this nonsense.

[Guesty07]

That isn't what taunt is for on a shadow Knight bud

[Guesty07]

Learn. How. To. Play. Your. Class

[DeathsSilkyMist]

Originally Posted by Guesty07 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Learn. How. To. Play. Your. Class

You should learn to stop trolling. I know how to play my class just fine. Understanding all use cases for your abilities and spells is a good thing. You clearly want to avoid learning more about the game. So much so you make a fool of yourself.

[Snaggles]

The 50% success rate that is just the chance per second assuming aggro has been lost. If aggro is not lost, it’s a 0% chance of doing anything. So really it’s a game of RNG, will you lose aggro at the fraction of a second taunt remains active and your finger is pressing the button?

Hence wait and click MacroTaunt.

/doability (7-10)
/attack on (with this line it will work for mez breaks, new and improved formula)
/cast 1 (which is likely slot one Shadow Vortex

You now have 50% chance of that taunt instantly peeling aggro (since you waited to click it). For no extra clicks in 1.5 seconds you will have generated another 1k hate from the casted spell. Should the mob have run away chasing your idiot teammate who didn’t debuff or nuke in-range the taunt will miss but the spell will rip it back.

[DeathsSilkyMist]

Originally Posted by Snaggles [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

The 50% success rate that is just the chance per second assuming aggro has been lost. If aggro is not lost, it’s a 0% chance of doing anything. So really it’s a game of RNG, will you lose aggro at the fraction of a second taunt remains active and your finger is pressing the button?

When you have a 0% chance of success because you already have agro, this 0% chance applies to both strategies. If you lose agro, you have a 50% chance or an 8.33% chance of success based on the strategy you are using. It's really that simple.

The only difference between the two strategies is when you press the button. It's a single variable that is changing. All other factors apply to both strategies equally. I am not sure why this is difficult to understand.

The benefit of spamming taunt is you are spending a bit less brain power on worrying about pressing taunt, while still getting a chance of success. The benefit of using strategic taunting is you have a higher chance of success at the cost of a bit more brain power and having to click a specific button at the right time. Both strategies have tangible pros and cons. Luckily the opportunity cost of a single missed taunt due to switching between strategies is extremely small, because taunt is unreliable and it has a short cooldown. Don't be afraid to miss a taunt once in a while. If you hesitate because you are afraid of wasting a taunt, that is also hurting your success rate.