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Old 08-25-2014, 06:40 PM
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You want to carry as much loot as you can

5 sta for a caster is nothing

Invest those extra points into STR
So STR also increases your carrying capacity? I suppose i'll do that then.. Do casters dont really use any other stat besides INT?
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Old 08-26-2014, 03:03 PM
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So STR also increases your carrying capacity? I suppose i'll do that then.. Do casters dont really use any other stat besides INT?
Enchanters want CHA, Necromancers sometimes go with STA, but Mage/Wiz just need INT. Erudite wizards may want to toss those 5 points into Agility to get up to 75, though (since they don't have a pet to take aggro).
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Old 08-25-2014, 07:07 PM
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1) Wizards are a boring class and have a lot of weaknesses; don't roll one IMO unless you're sure you want to play one. For a beginner I'd definitely go magician over wizard.

2) Don't get DEX, that was a joke/troll comment. Really, beyond INT, the other stats won't make much of a difference for a mage.

3) STR increases carrying capacity, yes, but as a mage you can summon bags which have 100% weight reduction, so it's kind of a non-issue.
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Old 08-25-2014, 07:50 PM
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1) Wizards are a boring class and have a lot of weaknesses; don't roll one IMO unless you're sure you want to play one. For a beginner I'd definitely go magician over wizard.

2) Don't get DEX, that was a joke/troll comment. Really, beyond INT, the other stats won't make much of a difference for a mage.

3) STR increases carrying capacity, yes, but as a mage you can summon bags which have 100% weight reduction, so it's kind of a non-issue.
Alright ill go Mage, thanks for the info guys. and how do I use general chat?
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Old 08-25-2014, 07:51 PM
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Also are there any guilds going on? and end game Raids? just curious.
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Old 08-25-2014, 10:15 PM
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Alright ill go Mage, thanks for the info guys. and how do I use general chat?
I don't know what you mean by general chat. There is no global chat channel if that's what you mean, but you can /ooc to talk to everyone in the zone you're currently in. There's also a P99 IRC channel (see my signature).

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Also are there any guilds going on? and end game Raids? just curious.
Lots of guilds, both for leveling up and for end-game raiding. Lots of raiding too. A bit too much raiding. The server's been up for a long time with a small amount of content (since the volunteer devs here can't work as fast to roll out expansions as the paid devs did back in classic era) so there are a lot of high-level players in different guilds competing for the same small number of mobs. There is a complicated system of rotation-ish stuff to mitigate this issue somewhat. If you're interested in how it all works, here is the run-down: http://www.project1999.com/raid.php. That doesn't actually give you the whole picture, though, since the Class R guilds have established rotations on raid bosses amongst themselves; they are not listed on that page since they are not GM-enforced.
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Old 08-25-2014, 10:42 PM
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Max out STA if you're going to roll mage and put the rest into INT - HP is way more important than mana
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Old 08-26-2014, 03:51 PM
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http://wiki.project1999.com/Stats#Primary_Stats

The general recommendation is to get AGI to 75 then focus on your preferred attribute. STR is really nice for carrying more stuff, but you can eventually get some weight reduction bags. Every point you don't feel like is needed elsewhere should be put into INT as a magician or wizard.

If you're thinking of doing STA, know this: http://wiki.project1999.com/Game_Mec...nt_Calculation
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Old 08-26-2014, 04:14 PM
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To point an Erudite caster to 75 agi is a waste of points, there's a ton of agi on caster gear.

Having a large mana pool isn't very important for a Mage, the HP are way more important.

Every single wiz on the server rides incredibly high over the INT softcap and those 25 INT points end up mostly wasted. 25 INT when youre over the softcap is barely 150 mana, which isnt even a full nuke. Sitting to catch med ticks will make up that lost mana easily.

People pay hundreds of thousands of plat for a Boneclasped Girdle to get 75 extra HP. 25 STA becomes 60Hp at lvl 60. People keep saying "oh its not that much" but it really is significant. HP really is the stat at the highest premium, and it keeps you alive. Each piece of +HP gear and a nice STA bonus at roll results in hundreds of extra HP at lvl 60. Those who say its not worth it to wear HP and STA gear lose hundreds of HP only for a couple hundred more mana, which is barely a full nuke, and only two or three Fetters. It really doesn't make much sense.

The int caster point allocation suggestions on the wiki aren't that great.
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Old 08-26-2014, 04:53 PM
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To point an Erudite caster to 75 agi is a waste of points, there's a ton of agi on caster gear.

Having a large mana pool isn't very important for a Mage, the HP are way more important.

Every single wiz on the server rides incredibly high over the INT softcap and those 25 INT points end up mostly wasted. 25 INT when youre over the softcap is barely 150 mana, which isnt even a full nuke. Sitting to catch med ticks will make up that lost mana easily.

People pay hundreds of thousands of plat for a Boneclasped Girdle to get 75 extra HP. 25 STA becomes 60Hp at lvl 60. People keep saying "oh its not that much" but it really is significant. HP really is the stat at the highest premium, and it keeps you alive. Each piece of +HP gear and a nice STA bonus at roll results in hundreds of extra HP at lvl 60. Those who say its not worth it to wear HP and STA gear lose hundreds of HP only for a couple hundred more mana, which is barely a full nuke, and only two or three Fetters. It really doesn't make much sense.

The int caster point allocation suggestions on the wiki aren't that great.
Hm, that makes sense... though the 75 AGI thing could be helpful to a non-twink just starting out. So you would say go with 25 STA / 5 STR for all INT casters then?

Note: I'm not one of those that says to ignore HP gear, I just figured the extra INT would be more useful than STA, since STA/HP gear is also fairly common.

Most of my characters are WIS casters (Druid, Paladin, Shaman), and I went with STA/STR on them, but I thought the conversion for INT casters was significantly worse. However, this discussion prompted me to check the wiki entry on Statistics, and the difference is only 0.6 per STA at level 60 (0.3 if the 115 soft cap is in play). I guess that's a lesson on going by half-remembered "facts" from 14 years ago [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

TL;DR version: You've changed my mind, and I'm rerolling the Mage I just started.
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