Serious question for GM's

[Bodybagger]

I fished a tourney on a powerplant lake Sunday. Had a killer day prefishing Saturday and would've been in money but the big motor went down when battery shorted internally overnight charging.... closest walmart was sold out of suitable replacements... seriously bad times. First of the year and essentially put me out of running for point so I will probably not fish rest of series. more time for elf sim I guess...
/insert'didwejustbecomebestfriends'.gif

[Sirken]

Originally Posted by Bodybagger [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I'm not an important high end raider/pvp'er... I'm no neckbeard, no basement dwelling addict, no one of real consequence... just like I was, and just like all of my friends were back on live at launch. I'm just a guy that plays video games for fun in my free time when I'm not doing anything else... for fun and entertainment, if you can imagine that.

I also enjoy forums... I am o fishing forums for the fishing I do, car forums for the car stuff I do... and this forum for the Elf Simming I do.

What I don't understand... is how the bad people (from what I observe on here) get banned, make other accounts, and keep being bad... or get to come back... is it just some sort of optical illusion or do the awful people just never get kicked out? It isn't as though you're getting subscription money form them and have a reason to put up with them like on classic... are the problem players permanently removed or do they just get to stick around making the box worse for everyone?

And speaking of boxing... what is up with the rampant accepted boxing here? I thought that was a no-no?

Thanks for the fun box,
Bodybagger
(seriously goog guy and curious/concerned citizen of Norrath)

to address why its so hard to get rid of bad apples, it short, its 2015. we have banned tons of player accounts and IP addresses as well as many proxys & VPNs from the site and the server, but its really really easy to get new IPs and roll a new account. if you are simply referring to forum infractions, we allow them back on a new forum account because players need forum accounts to access the petition & bug forums. as far as in game crimes against norrath, most of them (2boxing included) start as suspensions, and not bans. when we ban a player its permanent, and if they want to change their ways and put in the effort to reroll a new account, we let them. we believe in second chances, and the ability for people to change. sometimes good people just make a bad decision, and we dont feel they should receive a life sentence for that. that said, there are absolutely certain truly heinous acts that will result in us no longer allowing a person to play here.

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Sirks

[Genedin]

Originally Posted by Sirken [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

to address why its so hard to get rid of bad apples, it short, its 2015. we have banned tons of player accounts and IP addresses as well as many proxys & VPNs from the site and the server, but its really really easy to get new IPs and roll a new account. if you are simply referring to forum infractions, we allow them back on a new forum account because players need forum accounts to access the petition & bug forums. as far as in game crimes against norrath, most of them (2boxing included) start as suspensions, and not bans. when we ban a player its permanent, and if they want to change their ways and put in the effort to reroll a new account, we let them. we believe in second chances, and the ability for people to change. sometimes good people just make a bad decision, and we dont feel they should receive a life sentence for that. that said, there are absolutely certain truly heinous acts that will result in us no longer allowing a person to play here.

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Sirks

although I don't agree with many things, this is a great post and outlook on the server in my opinion

[Nirgon]

Replace ban with limit to posting in petition/exploit and bugs

No new accounts

[Littlegyno 13.0]

Originally Posted by Sirken [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

to address why its so hard to get rid of bad apples, it short, its 2015. we have banned tons of player accounts and IP addresses as well as many proxys & VPNs from the site and the server, but its really really easy to get new IPs and roll a new account. if you are simply referring to forum infractions, we allow them back on a new forum account because players need forum accounts to access the petition & bug forums. as far as in game crimes against norrath, most of them (2boxing included) start as suspensions, and not bans. when we ban a player its permanent, and if they want to change their ways and put in the effort to reroll a new account, we let them. we believe in second chances, and the ability for people to change. sometimes good people just make a bad decision, and we dont feel they should receive a life sentence for that. that said, there are absolutely certain truly heinous acts that will result in us no longer allowing a person to play here.

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Sirks

What constitutes permanent exile from the realm? Ender rerolled 3-4 times on new characters and was banned each time he was revealed to be Ender. Is he permanently exiled from Emperor Rogean's land?

Also, what about people like Nizzar, Tune, Cast?

[Kergan]

Originally Posted by Sirken [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

to address why its so hard to get rid of bad apples, it short, its 2015. we have banned tons of player accounts and IP addresses as well as many proxys & VPNs from the site and the server, but its really really easy to get new IPs and roll a new account. if you are simply referring to forum infractions, we allow them back on a new forum account because players need forum accounts to access the petition & bug forums. as far as in game crimes against norrath, most of them (2boxing included) start as suspensions, and not bans. when we ban a player its permanent, and if they want to change their ways and put in the effort to reroll a new account, we let them. we believe in second chances, and the ability for people to change. sometimes good people just make a bad decision, and we dont feel they should receive a life sentence for that. that said, there are absolutely certain truly heinous acts that will result in us no longer allowing a person to play here.

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Sirks

It's really not possible for a small volunteer staff to permanently keep people out. It is up to the community to blacklist scum so they leave on their own. Unfortunately that seems to rarely if ever happen here.

Maybe if you started extending punishment for some of the more serious infractions to the guild leadership that shelter known douchebags the community would take care of itself.

Just my 2 cents.

[fred schnarf]

Originally Posted by Sirken [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

to address why its so hard to get rid of bad apples, it short, its 2015. we have banned tons of player accounts and IP addresses as well as many proxys & VPNs from the site and the server, but its really really easy to get new IPs and roll a new account. if you are simply referring to forum infractions, we allow them back on a new forum account because players need forum accounts to access the petition & bug forums. as far as in game crimes against norrath, most of them (2boxing included) start as suspensions, and not bans. when we ban a player its permanent, and if they want to change their ways and put in the effort to reroll a new account, we let them. we believe in second chances, and the ability for people to change. sometimes good people just make a bad decision, and we dont feel they should receive a life sentence for that. that said, there are absolutely certain truly heinous acts that will result in us no longer allowing a person to play here.

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Sirks

lite has been boxing from the start, so you sir are a fucking joke

stop pretending you do anything here

[dontbanpls]

Originally Posted by fred schnarf [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

lite has been boxing from the start, so you sir are a fucking joke

stop pretending you do anything here

remeber when Smedy took two weeks for boxing? most hilarious punishment ever given out

[Sirken]

Originally Posted by fred schnarf [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

lite has been boxing from the start, so you sir are a fucking joke.stop pretending you do anything here

what i know and what i can prove are very different things. comments like yours are exactly why its so hard to find people to staff red. a lot of you nerds are under the impression that as staff we can just whatever we want on a whim. sadly thats just not the case. and if youd ban players without evidence, then red is really lucky not to have staff members like you on the team

Originally Posted by dontbanpls [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

remeber when Smedy took two weeks for boxing? most hilarious punishment ever given out

i very much doubt this. two boxers are given 30 days. i know some guides will do 15 if the person is honest about it. but i personally have been campaigning to the staff to make boxing into a first violation = permaban offense. furthermore, not all two boxing is created equally, meaning, some people are very lazy when it comes to boxing, and they are easier to catch. if you dont show up on our detector, then a guide would have to see a petition and have the time to run a manual 2 box test, as opposed to just going off the detector.


tldr - play better

[dontbanpls]

Originally Posted by Sirken [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

what i know and what i can prove are very different things. comments like yours are exactly why its so hard to find people to staff red. a lot of you nerds are under the impression that as staff we can just whatever we want on a whim. sadly thats just not the case. and if youd ban players without evidence, then red is really lucky not to have staff members like you on the team


i very much doubt this. two boxers are given 30 days. i know some guides will do 15 if the person is honest about it. but i personally have been campaigning to the staff to make boxing into a first violation = permaban offense. furthermore, not all two boxing is created equally, meaning, some people are very lazy when it comes to boxing, and they are easier to catch. if you dont show up on our detector, then a guide would have to see a petition and have the time to run a manual 2 box test, as opposed to just going off the detector.


tldr - play better

Does downloading a virtual machine and playing through a VPN equate to playing better?