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Old 06-17-2015, 09:32 AM
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Around the time of promoting Pantheon: Rise of the Fallen... I think SamwiseRed (or someone who has been around a long time) actually asked Brad McQuad if getting rogue/cleric/shaman/etc epics at level 1 was intended by the original EQ developers.

The answer? No.


Hard to stop it now of course, but it is sad to see cleric epics on people leveling in Mistmoore.

Quest your own epics, get that sense of achievement.
Yeah i remember that.

The forced raid rotation system isn't classic either, but it was done because they determined that the raid scene was unacceptable and not in the spirit of what they were trying to accomplish here. I think you could pretty easily argue that the current epic MQ market is certainty not in the spirit of classic EQ nor of what they are trying to accomplish here either. It isn't quite as cut and dry however, because as OP stated there are some occasions where MQs actually benefit the non-basement dwelling crowd. But i think that those instances are far and few between.

I think the only legit argument for it is that it may allow players that aren't part of a large guild or any guild at all who don't have much play time to spend a few hours a day tunnel questing to eventually get an epic. But seriously, we need LESS reasons for people to tunnel quest...not more.
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Old 06-17-2015, 10:32 AM
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As if we needed an original EQ dev to weigh in on epiced level ones.

I like MQing in the way it goes to show how broken and new everything was at the time and how MQing is now should really not be that suprising. Telling people they should get thier epic 'the right way' and looking down on people that sell MQs is just silly.
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Old 06-17-2015, 10:41 AM
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Level 1 characters running around with epics might be classic mechanics. It doesn’t feel classic. I am sure it happened, but I never saw it. Here it is so common I am surprized when I see a rogue leveling up without an epic and cleric epics at low levels are common place.

End the MQs!
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Old 06-17-2015, 01:23 PM
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Hard to stop it now of course, but it is sad to see cleric epics on people leveling in Mistmoore.

Quest your own epics, get that sense of achievement.
To be fair, some people will quest their own epic, they just do it on L60_main_01 and then MQ it to L1_cleric_alt_05. I would think they have still earned the sense of achievement? I cannot say the same for those who purchase their epic.
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Old 06-17-2015, 03:16 PM
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To be fair, some people will quest their own epic, they just do it on L60_main_01 and then MQ it to L1_cleric_alt_05. I would think they have still earned the sense of achievement? I cannot say the same for those who purchase their epic.
Why is earning PP less reputable than doing a quest?

Often times, it is more time consuming (hours to plat ratio) but less social (you don't need to work with a guild/friends to get the parts done).
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Old 06-17-2015, 03:31 PM
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Why is earning PP less reputable than doing a quest?
I imagine there's less camp lawyering/maneuvering in epic quest hand-ins.
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Old 06-17-2015, 03:29 PM
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To be fair, some people will quest their own epic, they just do it on L60_main_01 and then MQ it to L1_cleric_alt_05. I would think they have still earned the sense of achievement? I cannot say the same for those who purchase their epic.
As someone who generally doesn't bother with ECmart as I feel it takes away a lot of the game...

I don't see how buying an MQ is so different to buying many other rare/sought after items... I assume part of the sense of accomplishment for these people (if they care about such a thing at all) is saving up vast sums of plat for these items?
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Old 06-17-2015, 03:36 PM
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I don't see how buying an MQ is so different to buying many other rare/sought after items... I assume part of the sense of accomplishment for these people (if they care about such a thing at all) is saving up vast sums of plat for these items?
Or vice versa, accumulating vast sums of plat from selling these items. Thanks to no AAs, there's not much else to do in the end game besides raiding, farming, making money, and gearing up alts. Everquest, believe it or not, does not have very much content and your options of entertainment consist of A) kill it, B) kill it with a bunch of people, or C) you cast your fishing line.
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Old 06-17-2015, 07:06 PM
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Quest your own epics, get that sense of achievement.
Currently questing Innoruk's Curse, achievement levels rising daily.
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Old 06-17-2015, 09:16 PM
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Currently questing Innoruk's Curse, achievement levels rising daily.
Off topic sorry, but you sir have an awesome profile pic [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.] I loved those games.
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