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Old 12-15-2015, 06:43 PM
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He has to beat hillary first.
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Old 12-15-2015, 06:50 PM
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Sanders has good intentions.
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Old 12-15-2015, 06:54 PM
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Too bad Bernie is a Zionist who won't reduce bloated military spending to pay for his gibs, but in all likelihood instead will ramp up the Drone Wars, preside over an open conflict in Syria, continue paying contractors millions to pump hummus up the asses of detainees, and will take out further loans at interest from his tribemates to pay for the advertised bread and circus. If you think going another trillion in to public debt so the state can pay already disgustingly inflated tuition for more women and minority studies degrees is going to somehow kick start our economy, and isn't in fact one of the greatest frauds ever proposed (money now owed by the public, funneled into the pockets of private people who both own the institutions with the bloated fees and benefit from the interest paid, in exchange for more cultmarx indoctrination and more Bernie voters. What a boon.), you are really confused.

I'm all about reforming higher ed in the US but what Bernie proposes isn't reform, it's gibmedats with no strings. Idiotic and transparently deceitful. If he were anything more than demagogue he would say we drown in unemployed humanities grads, we lack industry, we lack certain STEM graduates: subsidize the education of those areas required. And by the way, here are dollar caps on tuition that can be paid even in part by state funds, so reorganize your bloated institutions and make this vaguely economical again. But instead hail Caesar and keep the checks coming, right?

If you're not going with the only candidate with a snowball's chance in hell of NOT being a puppet, the only one who falls outside the 2 party system, I really don't know what to say to you. You're too invested in this Illusion that things are as they seem and everything is under control. You're bamboozled. Bernie is the most obvious Obama 2.0 you could put up on that fucking stage. If you're willing to vote for that, and not to vote for burning this disgusting machine to the ground, the blood of the murdered is on your hands too as far as I'm concerned.

I'm sure my candidate will drone strike his fair share too, but the shift of the overton window could pave the way toward more extremist candidates in the future, which is exactly the only thing that can save us. And the fact that his campaign is self funded is YUGE. Yuge.

I'm not going to lie to you like a Bernie supporter and tell you my guy is a good option who will fix everything immediately with mo money fo dem programs. It's just that he's the ONLY option, a desperate and frightful option, like picking up a shotgun with two shells in it when 3 dindus come in through a broken window. Will you risk dying with honor beating the last one with the empty weapon, or will you lay down and beg for mercy from all three?
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Old 12-15-2015, 07:05 PM
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Denmark, Canada, Australia, Japan, Germany, etc etc etc do it, and we're wealthier than they are.

If we didn't spend so much money driving obsolete aircraft carriers around the world and subsidizing the patron industries of corrupt officials, we'd be able to afford nice social programs too.
Half of those countries are rich because we don't have tariffs

America subsidizes everyone but ourselves, /sigh

I don't hate Bernie. I don't think for a second, however, that increasing the national debt is anything more than perpetual corporate welfare directing taxpayer money to the banks. The banks get permanent assets on their balance sheets and leftists don't care. It's bewildering to me, but then again I get pissed when I lose a penny
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Old 12-15-2015, 07:05 PM
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Too bad Bernie is a Zionist who won't reduce bloated military spending to pay for his gibs, but in all likelihood instead will ramp up the Drone Wars, preside over an open conflict in Syria, continue paying contractors millions to pump hummus up the asses of detainees, and will take out further loans at interest from his tribemates to pay for the advertised bread and circus. If you think going another trillion in to public debt so the state can pay already disgustingly inflated tuition for more women and minority studies degrees is going to somehow kick start our economy, and isn't in fact one of the greatest frauds ever proposed (money now owed by the public, funneled into the pockets of private people who both own the institutions with the bloated fees and benefit from the interest paid, in exchange for more cultmarx indoctrination and more Bernie voters. What a boon.), you are really confused.

I'm all about reforming higher ed in the US but what Bernie proposes isn't reform, it's gibmedats with no strings. Idiotic and transparently deceitful. If he were anything more than demagogue he would say we drown in unemployed humanities grads, we lack industry, we lack certain STEM graduates: subsidize the education of those areas required. And by the way, here are dollar caps on tuition that can be paid even in part by state funds, so reorganize your bloated institutions and make this vaguely economical again. But instead hail Caesar and keep the checks coming, right?

If you're not going with the only candidate with a snowball's chance in hell of NOT being a puppet, the only one who falls outside the 2 party system, I really don't know what to say to you. You're too invested in this Illusion that things are as they seem and everything is under control. You're bamboozled. Bernie is the most obvious Obama 2.0 you could put up on that fucking stage. If you're willing to vote for that, and not to vote for burning this disgusting machine to the ground, the blood of the murdered is on your hands too as far as I'm concerned.

I'm sure my candidate will drone strike his fair share too, but the shift of the overton window could pave the way toward more extremist candidates in the future, which is exactly the only thing that can save us. And the fact that his campaign is self funded is HUGE. Huge.

I'm not going to lie to you like a Bernie supporter and tell you my guy is a good option who will fix everything immediately. It's just that he's the ONLY option, a desperate and frightful option, like picking up a shotgun with two shells in it when 3 dindus come in through a broken window. Will you risk dying with honor beating the last one with the empty weapon, or will you lay down and beg for mercy from all three?
Its weird that all of your political beliefs are fixated on one issue, you don't want anyone paying any taxes and giving anyone anything.

just say that dude, don't rant like this. Just say you don't want anyone benefiting from the government except for the ultra rich.

sorry pal but that's the cornerstone of your entire philosophy
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Old 12-15-2015, 07:06 PM
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Half of those countries are rich because we don't have tariffs
you misspelled taarof.
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Old 12-15-2015, 07:08 PM
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you misspelled taarof.
Please tell me you aren't Persian.
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Old 12-15-2015, 07:08 PM
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Its weird that all of your political beliefs are fixated on one issue, you don't want anyone paying any taxes and giving anyone anything.

just say that dude, don't rant like this. Just say you don't want anyone benefiting from the government except for the ultra rich.

sorry pal but that's the cornerstone of your entire philosophy
The baroness of nonsequiturs strikes again.

Did you miss the part where my guy proposes reducing taxes on the middle class and closing loopholes so the ultra-wealthy pay their share? Did you miss the part where Bernie can't do this because he's funded by these multinational predators who stand to lose some profit? You literally argue the points of my candidate, while defending one who proposes the opposite. You are too fucking oblivious.
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Old 12-15-2015, 07:10 PM
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The baroness of nonsequiturs strikes again.

Did you miss the part where my guy proposes reducing taxes on the middle class and closing loopholes so the ultra-wealthy pay their share? You literally argue the points of my candidate, while defending one who proposes the opposite. You are too fucking oblivious.
your guy aint proposing shit lol

he aint gonna do anything cus 1. hes not electable and 2. hes full of shit and a liar and doesnt give a flying fuck about any of this except for the fame.
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Old 12-15-2015, 07:11 PM
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your guy aint proposing shit lol

he aint gonna do anything cus 1. hes not electable and 2. hes full of shit and a liar and doesnt give a flying fuck about any of this except for the fame.
Already demo'd how your boy is a liar with an actual argument. Are you going to do me the same courtesy or just squawk like a parrot?
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