Not sure which class to pick -- Looking for guidance

[Sage Truthbearer]

Originally Posted by Shortstack [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

A lot of pros for Monk and it doesn't seem to have many cons (except not being beautiful majestic ogres) so that might be the most logical choice. I will probably at least try out monk and either war/sk to get a feel for which I would rather play.

Yeah, Monks are very powerful class in this era of EQ and have always been a fun class to play, but do you enjoy the role of pulling? That will be the expectation of you in nearly every group you join unless they already have a designated puller, so consider that into your decision.

If you dig the way Ogres look then I would make one. You're going to invest a lot of time into your character, and I wouldn't want to waste time on a character that I didn't think looked cool. Also, SKs along with Paladins, are by far the best tanks for pick-up/experience groups which is what it sounds like you are primarily going to be doing. Not Monks.

[thufir]

Originally Posted by Shortstack [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

SK seems to be a red-haired step child of the group (maybe not so much as paladin though) and that is a bit of a bummer.

Shadowknights are excellent for group content. They have better aggro and snap aggro than either monk or warrior. They also have a good toolkit with a bunch of useful magics. Can even solo in a pinch. I greatly prefer my shadowknight to my warrior, for what that's worth.

They don't have much of a role in endgame raids, but they are very good for anything south of that. You'll have a lot to do.

[iruinedyourday]

yea but what if u like armor and swords and shit hehe

[vouss]

Sk's are absolutely useless to play on anything other then a PvP server, but if your playing on blue it doesn't really matter what you play as at all.

[thufir]

Originally Posted by vouss [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Sk's are absolutely useless to play on anything other then a PvP server, but if your playing on blue it doesn't really matter what you play as at all.

yeah, don't agree with that and haven't met many people who do, but I have noticed that there is a small contingent of raiders with multiple 60s who share this opinion.

if you have an unlimited amount of time to play the game and really like a raiding environment, you're probably right. if you're more casual, sk has a lot to offer.

[Damn]

Originally Posted by thufir [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

yeah, don't agree with that and haven't met many people who do, but I have noticed that there is a small contingent of raiders with multiple 60s who share this opinion.

if you have an unlimited amount of time to play the game and really like a raiding environment, you're probably right. if you're more casual, sk has a lot to offer.

Shadowknights are pretty useless in most pve scenarios unless you're doing a fear/hate clear or training mobs in vp and taking charms/dts

They simply getb outshines by every other class in pve however they're gods in pvp probably the most versatile and best solo pvp class endgame

[thufir]

Originally Posted by Damn [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Shadowknights are pretty useless in most pve scenarios unless you're doing a fear/hate clear or training mobs in vp and taking charms/dts

They simply getb outshines by every other class in pve however they're gods in pvp probably the most versatile and best solo pvp class endgame

thanks for demonstrating the thinking of high end raiders.

again, if you're a casual sk has a lot to offer. but yes, if you are going to have a top end raiding endgame a lot of classes, including the sk, have no real role.

[RDawg816]

Originally Posted by thufir [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

thanks for demonstrating the thinking of high end raiders.

Exactly. Opinionated min-maxers and rules-lawyers are overwhelmingly abundant. If you emo the game by being the best possible, that's fine....but if someone wants to make a gnome enchanter, an erudite necro, a ranger, etc. keep your opinion to yourself. It's one thing to politely suggest something (hey, you know a Necro really could benefit from that regen), but it's another thing to force your min-maxing on others.

[Danth]

I want to see those "Shadow Knights are useless" folks provide a full list of places a Monk/Shaman can duo where a SK/Shaman cannot. I'd like some actual perspective rather than vague claims.

Danth

[Nixtar]

Originally Posted by Danth [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I want to see those "Shadow Knights are useless" folks provide a full list of places a Monk/Shaman can duo where a SK/Shaman cannot. I'd like some actual perspective rather than vague claims.

Danth

min-max mindset; If X class can do something 0.1% more efficient than Y class, Y class is useless and anyone rolling Y class should be berated and humiliated. Bonus points if they mention why a particular race is also 0.05% more effective and you are "retarded and/or an idiot" for not choosing it.

For instance, there were no effective monks or necromancers before Kunark. They were completely useless and the sole demographic rolling those were retards/idiots.