not cool, nilbog!

[Kassel]

Calling Nilbog a nazi???


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[soup]

Originally Posted by Messianic [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

This has been explained to death, but basically the original EQ code paid a kind of homage to the D & D concept of hybrids; when the EQ versions of hybrids were actually weaker than the pures they attempted to splice, the devs (after a long time) just recognized them as regular classes with strengths/weaknesses just like the pure classes they emulated, but not any stronger, so not needing any kind of exp penalty.

However, the exp penalty is a part of the classic experience and it doesn't need to be whined about anymore.

Yeah, I've heard the story.

Just funny how you wind up with one of the most desired group classes that can solo well having the same penalty as one of the least desired group classes that can not solo as effectively.

Don't interpret this as bitching, please. I'm just killing time and discussing shit on a forum.

[nilbog]

I'm glad you found the appropriate venue to complain. I am sick of seeing people complain in Server Chat, you are correct. Do it here.

The objective of the server is to create a historical representation of the classic experience to the best of our ability.

Experience penalties: The in-game experience bar for every original player abided by these same rules. So, let's look at dates. EQ was released in March of 1999. The penalties were removed in January of 2001, in Velious. The majority of the classic timeframe (1 yr and 10 months) happened exactly the way it should be happening now.

This particular topic has been discussed in length on the forums. In my opinion, the experience system is an integral part of the game that shouldn't be ignored because people want to balance the entire game. I grow increasingly tired of playing mmorpgs until they are completely balanced. When that happens, everyone is the same, and it is boring. This is one small corner of the gaming universe where we are not forced to balance due to complaints of difficulty or envy.

If you want a level 60 hybrid character when Velious opens, put some time and effort into it. There will be more loot for you.

[Messianic]

Originally Posted by soup [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Yeah, I've heard the story.

Just funny how you wind up with one of the most desired group classes that can solo well having the same penalty as one of the least desired group classes that can not solo as effectively.

Don't interpret this as bitching, please. I'm just killing time and discussing shit on a forum.

Don't worry, I definitely didn't take it as complaining. I just explained it in case you were unaware...And its totally valid to point out the distinct differences between the classes, yet somehow they get the same penalty. It is dumb. But our hindsight is really clear, whereas the original creators were probably just trying to keep people leveling at the same pace and nurture the social aspect of the game. But they couldn't accurately predict which classes would be the most powerful, which I find hilarious.

[soup]

Originally Posted by Messianic [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Don't worry, I definitely didn't take it as complaining. I just explained it in case you were unaware...And its totally valid to point out the distinct differences between the classes, yet somehow they get the same penalty. It is dumb. But our hindsight is really clear, whereas the original creators were probably just trying to keep people leveling at the same pace and nurture the social aspect of the game. But they couldn't accurately predict which classes would be the most powerful, which I find hilarious.

The being unable to predict what classes would be most powerful is an interesting bit. It seems like it should be so obvious to them looking back with hindsight as well as having the knowledge of all kinds of other games, but I guess if you think about it they didn't really have crap to base anything on to be able to reallllly figure out how things would go.

[Henini]

Originally Posted by DevGrousis [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

not a mistake in coding, just a mistake in the thought process that leads to the xp penalty existing in the first place.

And your thought process is just fine playing this game while you thing it's messed up.

go play wow or has it gotten to hard for you now that they made shit require more then pressing one key every 15 seconds while your eyes are closed to take down end game content?

please. this stuff is what makes EQ EQ, don't come here saying you love eq but bitch about how it's not designed well.

it's not like you just bought the game and are unhappy because of this and you want your mom the get a refund on the game and get pokemon island instead.


He wasn't happy about your rant, Heck I'm not happy about it and I'm not even part of the staff. your type piss me off, if I had my way you would be banned already.

this is classic eq, classic eq had this, it was awesome. pick a different class if you think the penalty is so harsh. or see pokemon island as already mentioned

in other words, STFU or GTFO!

[boboo]

Originally Posted by nilbog [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

If you want a level 60 hybrid character when Velious opens, put some time and effort into it. There will be more loot for you.

Yeah put some time and effort into it, and dont EVER msg uthgaard on ANYTHING, act like youre afk if he messages you (you know, he could take "What do you mean?" the wrong way) and you might not get banned and lose that time and effort.

[Gorgetrapper]

Originally Posted by boboo [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Yeah put some time and effort into it, and dont EVER msg uthgaard on ANYTHING, act like youre afk if he messages you (you know, he could take "What do you mean?" the wrong way) and you might not get banned and lose that time and effort.

Looks like someone was banned and is twisting the situation to make him look innocent.

[boboo]

Then again, he might ban you for playing while afk, im not sure how deep into bans = boner he got since i left last autumn.

[SlankyLanky]

shut up and deal witht he penalty like everyone else has. or play a halfling rogue.