Project 1999 Atlas(beta)

[aaezil]

Originally Posted by Issar [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

The way you think people see this is “oh this guy is smart b/c he says stuff is wrong.”

The way people actually view it is that you’re fucking lazy for not fixing it, and you’re an ass for putting down someone’s generous efforts to share amongst our community... tbh

Have changed it - people put it back to being wrong every time. Mr. Smart Guy.

[Muggens]

Commendable work!

[ScaringChildren]

small criticisms/suggestions:

When I clicked on 'Antonica', I did not notice the menu drop downs right away. Just saw the map. Maybe make a two column page? One for map, one for menu. Or put menu on top of map. Or resize the map a bit.

Also, on the deeper pages where the maps are, I'd put the maps near the top. The lore and stuff is great but I'd imagine the maps are more important.

The idea is to be better than the wiki, correct? I bet it's way better on mobile already.

[killaessedai]

Antonica has a smaller horizontal axis than the other maps and it’s size is being determined programmatically based upon aspect ratio etc.. I will check it out and see if I can’t make it smaller.

I don’t intend to website to be better than the wiki. I am focusing on the user experience and artistic side of the information. I picture the final website as a compendium of project 1999 knowledge represented in a visually appealing manner, similar to a collectors’ edition encyclopedia of Zelda. However, I intend to have far more useful information, links to named, items, and quests on the zone page etc..

Much of the information above the map will be replaced by links to named npcs, monsters, tradeskill guides, links to items that display a tool tip with item information etc.. In the future, it will be far more useful located above the map.

Originally Posted by ScaringChildren [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

small criticisms/suggestions:

When I clicked on 'Antonica', I did not notice the menu drop downs right away. Just saw the map. Maybe make a two column page? One for map, one for menu. Or put menu on top of map. Or resize the map a bit.

Also, on the deeper pages where the maps are, I'd put the maps near the top. The lore and stuff is great but I'd imagine the maps are more important.

The idea is to be better than the wiki, correct? I bet it's way better on mobile already.

[loramin]

Originally Posted by aaezil [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

The wiki is 50-99% innacurate, depending on the specific page in question. Many of the raid pages in particular are made innacurate (plane of fear) on purpose to try to trip up other guilds.

Making a better looking wiki with the same wrong information isnt really all that useful, tbh.

As someone who has spent a great deal of time working with the wiki, I strongly disagree with this characterization. Not about the raid stuff (honestly the only raid zone page I read is the one for Plane of Sky, and it's pretty accurate), but in general far, far more than 1%-50% of the wiki content is accurate. If I had to hazard a number, I'd guess somewhere between 95%-99% of non-controversial pages are accurate (where "controversial pages" like plane of fear account for less than 1% of the total wiki content).

One caveat: that excludes faction numbers, but not which factions a mob is on. I don't know who imported those numbers or from where, but it was clearly a mass script that took data from an inaccurate source.

Originally Posted by aaezil [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Have changed it - people put it back to being wrong every time. Mr. Smart Guy.

Again, I think there's a huge difference between pages where no one has a stake except wanting the page to be accurate (99% of the wiki), and pages where "bad actors" deliberately want to inject false information.

To solve the latter case I think we need to identify the problematic pages, make an effort to correct them, and then flag them so that only wiki administrators can make changes afterwards. While I certainly don't know everything about Plane of Fear, I am a wiki admin, and would be happy to work with anyone who does have good information to clean up these problematic pages.

Originally Posted by killaessedai [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I don’t intend to website to be better than the wiki. I am focusing on the user experience and artistic side of the information. I picture the final website as a compendium of project 1999 knowledge represented in a visually appealing manner, similar to a collectors’ edition encyclopedia of Zelda. However, I intend to have far more useful information, links to named, items, and quests on the zone page etc..

Much of the information above the map will be replaced by links to named npcs, monsters, tradeskill guides, links to items that display a tool tip with item information etc.. In the future, it will be far more useful located above the map.

I think this is a very laudable goal: don't repeat existing effort, leverage that effort to make something newer and cooler [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

For what it's worth I'm both a programmer (and currently the instructor of a class on web development) and a frequent wiki editor. I've even written some scripts to do mass wiki edits (eg. all of the fashion categories). Shoot me a PM if you need help with anything.

[killaessedai]

Thanks for the offer. I am currently a cs student but I am new to web development. However, I had a few courses on full stack mean web development over the summer so I’ve been practicing and learning the different technologies that are used for database and web hosting etc..

Originally Posted by loramin [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I think this is a very laudable goal: don't repeat existing effort, leverage that effort to make something newer and cooler [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

For what it's worth I'm both a programmer (and currently the instructor of a class on web development) and a frequent wiki editor. I've even written some scripts to do mass wiki edits (eg. all of the fashion categories). Shoot me a PM if you need help with anything.

[loramin]

Originally Posted by killaessedai [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Thanks for the offer. I am currently a cs student but I am new to web development. However, I had a few courses on full stack mean web development over the summer so I’ve been practicing and learning the different technologies that are used for database and web hosting etc..

Cool, well all that stuff is my jam (I did web development professionally for about a decade before I started teaching it), so seriously please do let me know if you have questions.

[Kelzar]

That is very nice.

Thanks for sharing and working on that.

If you´d take some suggestion, I´d say the font used is not very read friendly. Maybe Im just losing some sight, dont know.

Thanks.

[bluntfang]

Originally Posted by Kelzar [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

That is very nice.

Thanks for sharing and working on that.

If you´d take some suggestion, I´d say the font used is not very read friendly. Maybe Im just losing some sight, dont know.

Thanks.

+1 the header font is unreadable.

[Prodigiosus]

pretty cool idea, hope you stick with it.