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View Poll Results: If you saw a gnome warrior say "DPS War LFG" what would you do?
Invite him to the group. 39 22.54%
Deny him to the group. 37 21.39%
Consider him in the group if no DPS rogue/monk available. 72 41.62%
Tell him to reroll rogue/monk if you want to do DPS. 53 30.64%
Tell him to learn how to play a warrior and give him your extended EQ knowledge. 36 20.81%
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Old 05-23-2011, 03:31 PM
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Sup I'm a ranger and LFG. Please invite me.
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Old 05-23-2011, 03:40 PM
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I would get kinda annoyed when groups were looking for dps and wouldn't invite my war. With BOTBDE/Wurmslayer I could out-dps most rogues and monks I grouped with. More people need to learn how to parse.

Oh, and if you had a good enough tank where you could stay below 40% all the time, you'll easily be outdpsing 90%+ of the server. The problem is I can usually hold aggro without a problem with my DPS setup.

I'm an ogre though. Not sure how a gnome would compare.

If anything you might be doing like 10 dps or so under a rogue/monk. Not wasting the healers' mana when you pull aggro kinda makes up for the little dps you may or may not be behind a rog/mnk on. Not to mention how completely ridiculous Mighty Strike disc is <40% hp. I was hitting like 300-500 dps with that active.
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Old 05-23-2011, 03:46 PM
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Hi i want to create a gnome warrior not to tank but just dps with a fist of zek/wyrmslayer or wyrm/wyrm - (will have RGB) gonna have mostly str/dex focus items instead of ac/hp. I would stay under 40% the whole time for the group to maximize the dps.
If you saw in shout: "Gnome DPS Warrior LFG NO TANKING" Would you...
If you take a look at any DPS chart with a warrior, and typical "dps classes" (ie rogue monk), you'd understand that while you do produce damage, sometimes a lot of it - you are on average no where near being considered a DPS class.

I think it's easy to assume you're pumping damage out when you haven't compared yourself fairly to a different class.

Wouldn't you have an easier time rolling rogue and decking him out in hp/ac gear, versus playing a "DPS warrior" without the benefit of backstab/FK?

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With BOTBDE/Wurmslayer I could out-dps most rogues and monks I grouped with
^ This is horseshit til you post a parse. Purely from the perspective that you're hitting the mob from the front 100x more often than your DPS'ers disallows warriors to really compete on DPS charts. That said, in the case where a Warrior actively looks to DPS and not over aggro to avoid riposte/parry/block, he's just made himself into a specialty-less fodder class.
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Old 05-23-2011, 03:54 PM
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But yes, warriors in Everquest are exclusively tanks. I think one of (if not THE) first weapons to have an aggro generating proc was the warrior epic. Why the hell would you want to roll a DPS warrior anyway? Tanking is one of the most active parts in the group, because half the time you're the one that's going to be pulling if you're short a monk.
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Old 05-23-2011, 03:54 PM
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I would get kinda annoyed when groups were looking for dps and wouldn't invite my war. With BOTBDE/Wurmslayer I could out-dps most rogues and monks I grouped with. More people need to learn how to parse.
I know who needs to learn how to parse and its not me.... I have grouped with several warriors with botbde and their dps was about 30% of my dps. At lvls 55+ warriors with the best possible gear cant even compete with poorly equipped rogues.
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Old 05-23-2011, 04:14 PM
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More than a few times I have been Head Cleric for my guild in PoHate/PoFear. In my group was the MT (Snoooooogan the pally) and Jarelorf the Wood Elf Warrior.

Jarelorf sometimes requests that I DO NOT heal him so he can get into super-uber-berserker-rage mode for extra DPS(Snoogan purposefully drops aggro onto him so he can take some damage a little bit at a time before redirecting the mob). I can tell he does a significantly increased amount of damage (duh, obvious), enough so that sometimes he tips the tables and our group becomes the EXP group in raids [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I agree with the earlier poster who said that Warriors do not have a way to dump aggro, and this can make it troublesome if the berserker warrior somehow grabs it. In my experience we have not had a problem doing this however; Snoogan holds aggro just fine, and it's my opinion that a Shadowknight's aggro would also be adequate.

Summary: Although it is a fun and different thing to do, I think it would be more work for you to explain yourself as a DPS-only warrior every time you join a new group.

I suggest making yourself a tank first and carry around a second set of "DPS Gear" for those situations where there's a shadowknight/paladin who is able to tank and secure aggro so you are free to DPS.
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Old 05-23-2011, 04:16 PM
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I would have to research it more but i would say an equipped warrior could hold up against another melee dps class, and why not? considering crits, or esp if your running the war at berserk my groups loved me crippling for 700+ and knocking mobs in half or more.
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Old 05-23-2011, 04:17 PM
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I would get kinda annoyed when groups were looking for dps and wouldn't invite my war. With BOTBDE/Wurmslayer I could out-dps most rogues and monks I grouped with. More people need to learn how to parse.
I parse every fight and i can say that no warrior has ever been close to overtaking me in damage. I hear lieing on the internet makes you cool
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Old 05-23-2011, 04:18 PM
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Even if you wanted to do more DPS in general - gnome would not be the race to choose.
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Old 05-23-2011, 04:21 PM
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hey, compared to a paladin, warrior is a dps class [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]
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