Warrior Dex Gear Suggestions Needed

[jhandor]

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[Crede]

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Fixed link for the dex build

[jhandor]

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Fixed link for the dex build

Working now. Thanks!

[Drueric]

Do you think your weapons proc at the rate they should be? I didnt play my dex warrior for like 8 months, came back here recently and when I started playing my warrior again he wasnt procing nearly as much as he used to, its making think they nerfed weapon procs while I was away. I often go several minutes without a single weapon proc. I used to solo easily with this build, now I cant because my weapons arent procing hardly at all. I even have a higher dex than before.

I can kill 3 mobs and see maybe 1 proc. MAYBE. Its getting frustrating.

EDIT: OMG.. its my haste item. I took it off and now Im procing alot again... wtf... LOL... Note to self, and everyone.. dont get a haste item if you want your weapons to proc more often...

[Goregasmic]

Originally Posted by Drueric [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

EDIT: OMG.. its my haste item. I took it off and now Im procing alot again... wtf... LOL... Note to self, and everyone.. dont get a haste item if you want your weapons to proc more often...

I think it is normalized so it always procs the same amount per minute on average depending on dex, regardless of wether you dw fast weap or a slow 2hander. Hastes doesn't change anything to the proc rate but you'll get less procs per swing.

[Drueric]

Originally Posted by Goregasmic [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I think it is normalized so it always procs the same amount per minute on average depending on dex, regardless of wether you dw fast weap or a slow 2hander. Hastes doesn't change anything to the proc rate but you'll get less procs per swing.

Anecdotally, thats not what I see happening. Procs from what I have seen are pretty random, with dex being a factor. Haste also seems to make a difference, negatively.

I think a dex warrior will be much more useful if you dont wear a haste item. Try it and see. Slower weapon delay from what I see, makes your weapons proc more often.

That formula on the wiki is just someones best guess as to how procs work, and I think its inaccurate.

My haste theory is just a theory, I would say I have not tested using good haste items vs not, since I dont have one, but I have a low end haste item and been buffed with haste to see a comparison. My dex warrior also isnt capped out. But I dont think that matters for testing the theory, but even the wiki suggests weapon delay is a factor.

[zelld52]

Originally Posted by Drueric [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Anecdotally, thats not what I see happening. Procs from what I have seen are pretty random, with dex being a factor. Haste also seems to make a difference, negatively.

I think a dex warrior will be much more useful if you dont wear a haste item. Slower weapon delay from what I see, makes your weapons proc more often.

Sure, but less haste means less damage output, and on average, less threat per fight.

Damned either way

[loramin]

Originally Posted by Drueric [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Anecdotally, thats not what I see happening. Procs from what I have seen are pretty random, with dex being a factor. Haste also seems to make a difference, negatively.

I think a dex warrior will be much more useful if you dont wear a haste item. Try it and see. Slower weapon delay from what I see, makes your weapons proc more often.

That formula on the wiki is just someones best guess as to how procs work, and I think its inaccurate.

My haste theory is just a theory, I would say I have not tested using good haste items vs not, since I dont have one, but I have a low end haste item and been buffed with haste to see a comparison. My dex warrior also isnt capped out. But I dont think that matters for testing the theory, but even the wiki suggests weapon delay is a factor.

Test it. Hit a mob once, then back off (root it or let someone else tank it). After waiting awhile, hit it again: your chance of proccing will be much higher.

[bcbrown]

Originally Posted by Drueric [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Anecdotally, thats not what I see happening. Procs from what I have seen are pretty random, with dex being a factor. Haste also seems to make a difference, negatively.

Originally Posted by loramin [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Test it. Hit a mob once, then back off (root it or let someone else tank it). After waiting awhile, hit it again: your chance of proccing will be much higher.

The issue with both of these is that anecdotal observations aren't going to be very accurate. I'd guess you'd want at least 1000 procs to get results of any significance, and since procs are on the order of 1 or 2 per minute, that's gonna be hours of parsing.

Say you're at max dex and do a half hour of testing with and without haste. You should expect about 60 procs. If you get something like 61 hasted and 65 unhasted you really can't draw any conclusions from that. But if you did 500 hours of testing per side and got 61000 and 65000, then you could probably draw some conclusions.

The human mind being what it is, we naturally emphasize observations that support our pre-existing theories while discarding others that don't support it. For example, any fight where you don't get the proc you were hoping for is going to stick out, while the fight with three back-to-back procs might not be very memorable.

[zelld52]

i completely gave up on relying for procs on my warrior. for aggro: ive found that just very fast weapons are best to generate threat, especially in a hurry.

hows the gear looking Jhan?