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Old 09-25-2011, 11:47 AM
Mardur Mardur is offline
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Yeah, Luclin was also terrible for PvP.

However it was the first expansion where they really started to get class balance right.
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Old 09-25-2011, 11:50 AM
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So let me get this straight, you would rather waste hours bargaining than purchase an item from a vendor? The whole point is to just purchase the item, if you want to bargain than send a tell to the dude. Without a universal chat, it is kind of hard to ask people if they have the item you want, and the bazaar helped with that.

As for luclin graphics, they are 10X better than the current. Right now our characters look like blocky minecraft people. You have like 5 different options to change their face/hair (not seperately). It was a step in the right direction.
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Old 09-25-2011, 11:51 AM
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It lessened the need for people to interact. Essentially the beginning of the WoW era.

Bazaar and no need to use anyone's help to get around. (PoP kinda made wizards and druids less useful outside of groups)
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Old 09-25-2011, 11:56 AM
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People still used Wizards and Druids for ports. Its just the fact is fact: Druids and Wizards dont always want to port people around, especially not for free. It was helpful for people who needed to travel and didnt want to sit on their ass begging people to port them. Sounds reasonable to me.
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Old 09-25-2011, 12:17 PM
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People still used Wizards and Druids for ports. Its just the fact is fact: Druids and Wizards dont always want to port people around, especially not for free. It was helpful for people who needed to travel and didnt want to sit on their ass begging people to port them. Sounds reasonable to me.
Unless you're talking about Plane of Hate or Plane of Sky, there is no where in the game you can't walk to. Get off your ass and walk if there are no porters available. If you think walking is too painful, maybe you should have played a porting class or made more friends who can port.

Multiplayer games are not very multiplayer when everyone can do everything without interacting with anyone else.
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Old 09-25-2011, 11:57 AM
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Yes, I would much rather spend an hour or two socializing with an entire zone trying to buy something for the best price instead of following a magic line to a vendor and having to pay what they have listed. Most vendors were afk, there was no socializing. Also, while waiting for items, you get me meet and talk with many people. You get to make friends, share stories, and just have a good time. I love the EC tunnel, although I wish it was in NFP, but you can have a good time there buffing newbs and handing out free stuff to them. They get all excited.. Good times.
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Old 09-25-2011, 12:27 PM
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Joetheman - no they didn't. Barely.

Luclin made PVP suck thats for sure. Pop really did.. LDON broke the donkeys back
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Old 09-25-2011, 12:46 PM
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Thats too bad for PvP, never really played it. As for "the magical line" that leads you to a vendor, im pretty sure that wasnt out until later expansions. Bazaar does let you interact with people and people do auction out bargains. Im not saying I dont like classic because I do, im just saying Luclin was nothing but an improvement.
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Old 09-25-2011, 01:10 PM
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Thats too bad for PvP, never really played it. As for "the magical line" that leads you to a vendor, im pretty sure that wasnt out until later expansions. Bazaar does let you interact with people and people do auction out bargains. Im not saying I dont like classic because I do, im just saying Luclin was nothing but an improvement.
You like easy travel and easy selling but you like classic.

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Old 09-25-2011, 01:29 PM
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I thought there were some cool atmospheric zones in Luclin. Huge sprawling pointless places that just give me that 'wow' feeling when I walk through them. Places that had the really wide open feel of classic zones - places that felt like they weren't just there to feed your character mobs, quests and xp. PoP destroyed that for me - the places were soulless raid/grind theme parks.

I never experienced travel and trade before the bazaar and nexus because I started in the Luclin era. But if people who've played classic say there was MORE socialising and coperation before it, I can believe it, and those aspects of the game were what made EQ, even after Luclin, so I can see why it annoyed people when they arrived.

I agree with the comment that it was the first expansion that wasn't completely solid, and was when certain negative trends started. I can see that while theres good content in Luclin, the destructive aspects might outweight it - partly the bazaar and nexus but also in terms of gear inflation and making old zones obselete.

I'm excited about experiencing pre-Luclin EQ anyhow!
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