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Old 08-27-2011, 07:50 PM
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None, ask rogean when people begin the exidus from p99.
Oh no an exidus, so scurry.
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Old 08-27-2011, 07:51 PM
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Oh no an exidus, so scurry.
I just wish I knew wtf an exidus was.

Is it like an exodus?
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Old 08-27-2011, 07:51 PM
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yo dude i dunno wtf you talkin about but if i had 400 dollars to blow in anytime the past year it would of been on some hookers ( or your girl ) not you. So um quit tryn to smear peoples names just bc you got pwned k thx
lol i was fucking with them
see how serious they take it?
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Old 08-27-2011, 07:52 PM
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Oh no an exidus, so scurry.
This may result in many players not returning to P99, and I don't really know how this affects the server. But I'm sure that Rogean and anyone else involved in this decision took this into account when deciding how to handle it, and I'd imagine this probably contributed to the decision to suspend the accounts and penalize them, rather than banning them.
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Old 08-27-2011, 07:52 PM
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I just wish I knew wtf an exidus was.

Is it like an exodus?
I think its like an exodus, but only happens to mq2 users who were banned today and failed to complete the fifth grade.
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Old 08-27-2011, 07:53 PM
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Good point. The thing that gave up those who were allegedly hacking, is that thing a specific fingerprint of prohibited 3rd party programs? Is it possible that such a fingerprint might exist for other reasons, like hacking on another game, or hacking on your live account or something?
No, they're just checking your EQGame.exe to see what other files might have been injected.

Here, from Wikipedia;

In computer programming, DLL injection is a technique used to run code within the address space of another process by forcing it to load a dynamic-link library.[1] DLL injection is often used by third-party developers to influence the behavior of a program in a way its authors did not anticipate or intend.[1][2][3] For example, the injected code could trap system function calls,[4][5] or read the contents of password textboxes, which cannot be done the usual way.[6]

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There are at least four ways to force a program to load a DLL on Microsoft Windows:
DLLs listed under the registry key HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows NT\CurrentVersion\Windows\AppInit_DLLs will be loaded into every process that links to User32.dll as that DLL attaches itself to the process.[5][7][8][9]
Process manipulation functions such as CreateRemoteThread can be used to inject a DLL into a program after it has started.[5][6][10][11][12][13]
Get a handle to the target process. This can be done by spawning the process[14][15] or by keying off something created by that process that is known to exist – for instance, a window with a predictable title,[16] or by obtaining a list of running processes[17] and scanning for the target executable's filename.[18]
Allocate some memory in the target process,[19] and the name of the DLL to be injected is written to it.[10][20]
This step can be skipped if a suitable DLL name is already available in the target process. For example, if a process links to ‘User32.dll’, ‘GDI32.dll’, ‘Kernel32.dll’ or any other library whose name ends in ‘32.dll’, it would be possible to load a library named ‘32.dll’. This technique has in the past been demonstrated to be effective against a method of guarding processes against DLL injection.[21]
Create a new thread in the target process[22] with the thread's start address set to be the address of LoadLibrary and the argument set to the address of the string just uploaded into the target.[10][23]
Instead of writing the name of a DLL-to-load to the target and starting the new thread at LoadLibrary, one can write the code-to-be-executed to the target and start the thread at that code.[6]
The operating system will now call DllMain in the injected DLL.[10][24]
Note that without precautions, this approach can be detected by the target process due to the DLL_THREAD_ATTACH notifications sent to every loaded module as a thread starts.[24]
Windows hooking calls such as SetWindowsHookEx.[2][5][6][25][26][27]
Use the debugging functions to pause all threads, and then hijack an existing thread in the application to execute injected code, that in turn could load a DLL.[4][28][29]
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Old 08-27-2011, 07:53 PM
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I think its like an exodus, but only happens to mq2 users who were banned today and failed to complete the fifth grade.
Oooooh, ya. That makes sense.
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Old 08-27-2011, 07:54 PM
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it's like running eq through WinEQ2. you have to make a choice to run these programs.
Which still does not technically prove that one using it while developing or playing on a server is actively using it in Project 1999.

If you are fooling around on a different server, it is not just going to turn itself off because you switched to p99. Aren't exploit-related bans typically because someone has done something in the game, not because the program is running in the background?
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Old 08-27-2011, 07:54 PM
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Rogean sucks hairy goat dick! Like alot, I am super ceral.....
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Old 08-27-2011, 07:56 PM
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Which still does not technically prove that one using it while developing or playing on a server is actively using it in Project 1999.

If you are fooling around on a different server, it is not just going to turn itself off because you switched to p99. Aren't exploit-related bans typically because someone has done something in the game, not because the program is running in the background?
loly explained post 197 how they are able to differentiate. mq2 allows you to modify eqgame.exe within memory, with gm commands there's no reason for it on your own server.
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