Best 4 person all caster/priest group

[cd288]

Originally Posted by PlsNoBan [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

He's already admitted his preference for shaman is because of "safety" which isn't needed with a group with 2 encs and a cleric that knows what they're doing. He's entitled to his preferences and opinions. Mage (or necro) is objectively a better choice if you're playing with a high quality group of players that has no need for a shaman to correct their mistakes and prevent what otherwise would have been a wipe.

Any group with an Ench and a Cleric doesn't need a Shaman. Plain and simple.

[PlsNoBan]

Originally Posted by cd288 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Any group with an Ench and a Cleric doesn't need a Shaman. Plain and simple.

They might if the enc and/or cleric aren't super good at the game. It can be helpful if they're prone to fucking up or playing sub-optimally. Which I assume is the case for many of DSM's groups cause he seems hell-bent that his extra safety is needed and super beneficial. That might be his experience. It certainly isn't mine.

[DeathsSilkyMist]

Originally Posted by cd288 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Who else has nearly 800 posts in this thread? You're literally the only person even close to that number.

Plenty of people have proven you wrong. When they start trolling you is when you refuse to admit that they proved you wrong and then act all sanctimonious toward them. If someone wanted to take the immense amount of time required to go back through your nearly 800 posts in this thread they would see this theme play out: Someone proves you wrong, you refuse to admit it, and when you do that long enough the person starts trolling you because you're being absurd and then you go "see!?!?!?!?! they're just a troll they're irrelevant!!!!!!"

PlsNoBan has 319 posts so far, the vast majority of them are literally just insults and memes.

Troxx has 261 posts so far, the vast majority of them are literally just insults and memes.

Cyxthryth has 151 posts so far, all of them are copy/paste nonsense.

That means the top 3 posters by themselves have around 700 posts that have nothing to do with the conversation, other than trolling. This isn't counting the lower post count people who have been trolling too. That easily makes their numbers over 800. Spreading the trolling around to multiple users doesn't make it better.

Just saying "Plenty of people have proven you wrong" doesn't make that correct. Please show me where you think they did prove me wrong.

I do not concede to trolls and fallacious arguments. That does not make me a troll. The people who have accumulated 800+ posts that are simply insults and memes are. If insults and memes with no context to the discussion aren't in your definition of trolling, you have a strange definition of trolling.

Originally Posted by PlsNoBan [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

He's already admitted his preference for shaman is because of "safety" which isn't needed with a group with 2 encs and a cleric that knows what they're doing. He's entitled to his preferences and opinions. Mage (or necro) is objectively a better choice if you're playing with a high quality group of players that has no need for a shaman to correct their mistakes and prevent what otherwise would have been a wipe.

They are not objectively better, because you can see the DPS breakpoints with simple math. You prefer to kill things a tiny bit faster, but unless you are playing for extremely long sessions, you won't benefit from the slightly faster kill speeds. You will benefit from having better security when something unexpected happens.

[PlsNoBan]

Originally Posted by DeathsSilkyMist [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

PlsNoBan has 319 posts so far, the vast majority of them are literally just insults and memes.

Troxx has 261 posts so far, the vast majority of them are literally just insults and memes.

Cyxthryth has 151 posts so far, all of them are copy/paste nonsense.

That means the top 3 posters by themselves have around 700 posts that have nothing to do with the conversation, other than trolling. This isn't counting the lower post count people who have been trolling too. That easily makes their numbers over 800. Spreading the trolling around to multiple users doesn't make it better.

Just saying "Plenty of people have proven you wrong" doesn't make that correct. Please show me where you think they did prove me wrong.

I do not concede to trolls and fallacious arguments. That does not make me a troll. The people who have accumulated 800+ posts that are simply insults and memes are. If insults and memes with no context to the discussion aren't in your definition of trolling, you have a strange definition of trolling.

Way way more than 50% of my posts in this thread are not trolling. I'm making legitimate counter points to your nonsense. I may call you names out of frustration but you can't discount the entire post cause I called you a moron in the middle of making a counter point. I fully admit that some of my posts were pure trolling/meme. That was also out of frustration with your density and stubborn headedness and what seems like dishonest arguments and bullshit. Which you have posted 700+ times now as a single user. You have to clump 3+ posters together to match your count. None of which have a "vast majority" of trolling posts. All of them (including myself) have made low effort insult/meme posts here and there. But all of them have and continue to make legit counter points in their posts.

[DeathsSilkyMist]

Originally Posted by PlsNoBan [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Way way more than 50% of my posts in this thread are not trolling. I'm making legitimate counter points to your nonsense. I may call you names out of frustration but you can't discount the entire post cause I called you a moron in the middle of making a counter point. I fully admit that some of my posts were pure trolling/meme. That was also out of frustration with your density and stubborn headedness and what seems like dishonest arguments and bullshit. Which you have posted nearly 800 times now as a single user. You have to clump 3+ posters together to match your count. None of which have a "vast majority" of trolling posts. All of them (including myself) have made low effort insult/meme posts here and there. But all of them have and continue to make legit counter points in their posts.

You should really look back into your post history. Most of your posts are just insults or memes, and have no context to the discussion. Being mad because someone disagrees with you is not justification for mass trolling in a thread that isn't in RnF.

[PlsNoBan]

THE POST HISTORY IS CLEAR

Another high quality DSM post that isn't trolling at all

[DeathsSilkyMist]

Originally Posted by PlsNoBan [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

THE POST HISTORY IS CLEAR

Another high quality DSM post that isn't trolling at all

It is true though. You can't hide your post history, which is 300+ posts of insults/memes/trolling, with a small sprinkle of posts that actually address the conversation directly.

[PlsNoBan]

Originally Posted by DeathsSilkyMist [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

It is true though. You can't hide your post history, which is 300+ posts of insults/memes/trolling, with a small sprinkle of posts that actually address the conversation directly.

Disagree. People can see my multitude of posts clearly describing my points and why I think you were wrong and continue to be wrong. Post history is clear. I'm not ashamed of mixing in some memes and name calling here and there when I felt it appropriate. At least I can admit it instead of acting self righteous and pretending I don't like some of us [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

[DeathsSilkyMist]

Originally Posted by PlsNoBan [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Disagree. People can see my multitude of posts clearly describing my points and why I think you were wrong and continue to be wrong. Post history is clear. I'm not ashamed of mixing in some memes and name calling here and there when I felt it appropriate.

Just looking through your post history and searching for "aut", you have used the word "autism" or "autistic" in 50 out of your last 300 posts in your first sentence as a derogatory remark. That means at least 1 out of 6 posts you have done in this thread are simply insults by doing a 2 minute search. The only reason why this number isn't higher is because you switched to different insults after I called you out on it. You don't even need to dig very far to see how bad your post history is.

If people looked through all of the posts individually instead of just doing a cursory glance, they would see well over half of your posts are just insults and memes.

[PlsNoBan]

Originally Posted by DeathsSilkyMist [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Just looking through your post history and searching for "aut", you have used the word "autism" or "autistic" in 50 out of your last 300 posts in your first sentence as a derogatory remark. That means at least 1 out of 6 posts you have done in this thread are simply insults by doing a 2 minute search. The only reason why this number isn't higher is because you switched to different insults after I called you out on it. You don't even need to dig very far to see how bad your post history is.

If people looked through all of the posts individually instead of just doing a cursory glance, they would see well over half of your posts are just insults and memes.

I may call you names out of frustration but you can't discount the entire post cause I called you a moron in the middle of making a counter point.