Necro, how do you not choose Iksar?

[Tann]

Skimmed thread, 100% convinced to roll a human/de/gnome now.

[rxfh]

Originally Posted by Tann [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Skimmed thread, 100% convinced to roll a human/de/gnome now.

You fail the neckbeard challenge.

[filthyphil]

Erudites have become more and more common on Red for their higher mana pool. Dots are easily dispelled and you rely on your mana pool to lifetap people down more than anything.

But the Iksars regen is still very advantageous. All illusions drop upon zoning, zoning being a major factor in PvP means you are losing that Lich at every ZL. But as an Iksar you can run Allure of Death while standing/running/zoning and never lose HP while still getting a small return on mana.

I still prefer iksar for their higher FR, and stone of morrid.

[Morningbreath]

I can't deal with the exp penalty of Iksars. Period. All it means to me is more reps. More reps means more mindless repetition and to me that makes the game less fun.

Not only that, but lifetaps and lifetap DOTs are practically irresistible so that automatically makes them a part of my DOT stacking spell selection at all levels. I'm going to use them anyway so the fact that an iksar uses them less often is no issue to me. The mana you waste by casting double-save DOTs that get resisted 50% of the time instead of lifetaps is going to slow you down in the long run.

So no, I really don't care about Iksar regen. Maybe for monks and shaman it's a game changer but the exp penalty isn't worth it to me and it's not even a consideration.


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[B4EQWASCOOL]

Originally Posted by Morningbreath [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I can't deal with the exp penalty of Iksars. Period. All it means to me is more reps. More reps means more mindless repetition and to me that makes the game less fun.

Not only that, but lifetaps and lifetap DOTs are practically irresistible so that automatically makes them a part of my DOT stacking spell selection at all levels. I'm going to use them anyway so the fact that an iksar uses them less often is no issue to me. The mana you waste by casting double-save DOTs that get resisted 50% of the time instead of lifetaps is going to slow you down in the long run.

So no, I really don't care about Iksar regen. Maybe for monks and shaman it's a game changer but the exp penalty isn't worth it to me and it's not even a consideration.


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I think you have made the best argument to try red in your first paragraph that I have ever seen.

[NegaStoat]

I'm playing on Blue, and I rolled a Necro just to take it to 51 for splurt and park it for farming or whatever. Mostly I just wanted to level one up to say I did it. I went Dark Elf.

The leveling route I chose consisted of mostly camping 4 or less mobs, every step of the way, focusing on 6 min respawns. I can honestly say being an Iksar wouldn't have helped me up to 46 (where I am right now).

If I had ANY intention of going beyond 51 for Endgame, the regeneration would have been so obvious in how much it helps that there's no question that it's stupid to pass it up.

Being able to build a big (for a cloth caster) HP and Mana pool cheaply was nice being the DE though.

[Tann]

Originally Posted by NegaStoat [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

The leveling route I chose consisted of mostly camping 4 or less mobs, every step of the way, focusing on 6 min respawns. I can honestly say being an Iksar wouldn't have helped me up to 46 (where I am right now).

^^ this pretty much. Last 3 mob camp I did on my necro had a good 1min betwixt spawns, had to turn off lich after every cycle cause mana would be full.

This whole debate seems kinda silly, the class by itself is already insanely efficient. The added regen I'm sure is a nifty bonus but its not a game changer like getting Torpor.

[Swish]

Originally Posted by Tann [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

This whole debate seems kinda silly, the class by itself is already insanely efficient. The added regen I'm sure is a nifty bonus but its not a game changer like getting Torpor.

I'd hate to see the comparative health drain for lich and higher on a non-iksar. That in itself makes places like Howling Stones that bit more perilous... and if you like the extra challenge, jump in with both feet...smoothskin [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

[pharmakos]

Originally Posted by B4EQWASCOOL [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I think you have made the best argument to try red in your first paragraph that I have ever seen.

playing on red just for the bonus EXP is not a good reason to play red

[Swish]

Sounds like a real hassle not being an iksar.... I got one on blue (60) and had been leveling one on red - no regrets at all.

Also you're a necromancer so not many people like you anyway, might as well go all in and be hated by everyone from day 1 - and use skeleton form to bank in the evil cities etc.