Dem Debates - Page 25

iruinedyourday · #**241** 10-18-2015, 02:29 PM

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Originally Posted by maestrom [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

You haven't gone to grad school in the last 3 years have you?

Federally subsidized loans were recently eliminated for grad school programs ~3 years ago. Enrollment is still going up, tuition is still outpacing inflation.

The federal subsidies are a drop in the bucket of the cost of college and are not a significant driver in tuition costs.

If your undergrad degree wasn't hard enough then you probably could have (should have?) gone to a better school. I bet you went to the school you did because of costs though.

The problem is, ability to pay for school isn't always tied with ability to succeed in school. We should have an environment where people go to schools where the only consideration they have is will they get the educational experience that is right for them. If you're smart enough to take advantage of a top tier school, then you should be able to go to a top tier school and not have to wonder about whether you'd be able to pay for it.

Loans have been a step in the correct direction. Credit allows smart poor people to fund their educations. But it falls short because of the risk in the employment market. And has the unintended consequence of increasing price for everyone as demand for college goes up.

A better solution is one that lets people go to the school that lines up with their abilities without saddling them with debt. Establish real dollar price controls on public universities. Or just have a medicare-style single payer system for college education.

This is a great post considering the realities of what it like out there.

Great post.

iruinedyourday · #**242** 10-18-2015, 02:41 PM

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Ranndom · #**243** 10-18-2015, 02:47 PM

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Hillary just came out with this idea that students should be working while they're in school and that should be part of their educational financing because that's what she did.

This is ridiculous for many reasons. The biggest of which is that it puts poor kids at yet another disadvantage to rich kids in college. It also completely ignores that it's not 1970 anymore. Tuition isn't 1000 bucks a year, and you can't pay for most of your tuition grinding coffee beans or shelving books in the library like you could when she went to college 40 years ago.

The jobs that are required to earn enough money to pay for college are simply not available to college students. And if a college student manage to land one of those jobs, they would be under enormous time constraints that would either reduce their ability to do their job and continue to ear money for college, or reduce their ability to do well in college.

This is the kind of stuff that makes me wonder about Hillary. She attempts to lead on an issue and comes out on the wrong side.

Hitlery also thinks adults should go to "Fun Camps"

iruinedyourday · #**244** 10-18-2015, 02:50 PM

I got a camp you can go to random its accessible via train and my dear leader will open them up January 21st 2017.

Ranndom · #**245** 10-18-2015, 03:21 PM

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I got a camp you can go to random its accessible via train and my dear leader will open them up January 21st 2017.

Have you ever thought about getting help?
You have this strange unnatural obsession with me. Do you ever get off the forums or do you just wait for me to show up?

iruinedyourday · #**246** 10-18-2015, 03:23 PM

my dear leader will help me shove you into a freight car to spend sometime at out "adult fun camps" If thats what you mean.

Ranndom · #**247** 10-18-2015, 03:32 PM

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my dear leader will help me shove you into a freight car to spend sometime at out "adult fun camps" If thats what you mean.

You really think your "leader" gives two shits about you? Any real leader would throw you in the car with me for being a dishonorable asshat willing to sell out his own people for the purpose of becoming a teachers pet.

maestrom · #**248** 10-18-2015, 03:35 PM

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Hitlery also thinks adults should go to "Fun Camps"

Didn't realize this was a troll thread.

Sorry bros. I'm out.

Ranndom · #**249** 10-18-2015, 03:38 PM

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Didn't realize this was a troll thread.

Sorry bros. I'm out.

In one of Hillary's fun camps you wouldnt be able to leave. The purpose of her fun camps, as stated by her, would be to "force adults to talk to each other about politics"
Now, i dont know about you, but being held against my will is rather, unacceptable.

iruinedyourday · #**250** 10-18-2015, 03:40 PM

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Didn't realize this was a troll thread.

Sorry bros. I'm out.

We were doing great till random sour and big j came in with their wetbro baptist church spam. Dont worry they all do menial labor for work and will be back in the field for 6 days as soon as the sabbath is over.