Rogue Hide & Sneak

[heartbrand]

most of those dont even see invis

[HippoNipple]

Originally Posted by heartbrand [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

most of those dont even see invis

I was thinking the same thing, basically just caster mobs.

[Retti_]

Just the magi giants I think

[Andis]

Originally Posted by Gaffin Deeppockets [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

yes the giants do, we all know rogues got shroud of stealth in PoP but that was for named mobs, dragons, gods... etc. shit in seb and unrest/guk did not see rog hide at all from what i remember before SoS

[Slytherin]

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Cuttwin
Rogue of 63 long seasons

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List of Creatures That Can See Through Hide
Dragons (Vox and Nagafen)
Fire Giants
Scorn Banshees
Lichs
Loathing Lichs
Evil Eyes
Huge Elemental (Lower Guk)

[Danien]

Originally Posted by Gaffin Deeppockets [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

yes the giants do, we all know rogues got shroud of stealth in PoP but that was for named mobs, dragons, gods... etc. shit in seb and unrest/guk did not see rog hide at all from what i remember before SoS

Playing a rogue myself I remember the exact opposite.

[Classic]

Listen up HB. There's reams of evidence for it not being a certain 100% pass.

There's also evidence posted by me that shows in general some caster mobs saw invis some didn't. They didn't all the time. See the mention of goo's.

What you are argueing is that we should take this WAD non classic, 1 0, binary spell fix to "fake it".

Nah nah.

MAKE IT CLASSIC. Every single goblin wizard didn't see through rogue hide. Same goes for mobs in Seb and Some in Chardok.

What they did is find out that some mobs had a chance to rogue invis. Then slapped in a 100% stoppage through just giving them "see invis" hardcode.

Fuck that. Get of your righteous i'm the most bearded rabbi on the server shtick. I don't care how black and white your world is. It's not a good enough reason to fuck over the weakest class in this game with WAD and inaccurate non-code fixes. Make rogue invis a % based on mob level, skill level, rogue level, and mob type.

Except for the specific cases mentioned in the "evidence".

Fix it right.

[HippoNipple]

Originally Posted by Classic [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Listen up HB. There's reams of evidence for it not being a certain 100% pass.

There's also evidence posted by me that shows in general some caster mobs saw invis some didn't. They didn't all the time. See the mention of goo's.

What you are argueing is that we should take this WAD non classic, 1 0, binary spell fix to "fake it".

Nah nah.

MAKE IT CLASSIC. Every single goblin wizard didn't see through rogue hide. Same goes for mobs in Seb and Some in Chardok.

What they did is find out that some mobs had a chance to rogue invis. Then slapped in a 100% stoppage through just giving them "see invis" hardcode.

Fuck that. Get of your righteous i'm the most bearded rabbi on the server shtick. I don't care how black and white your world is. It's not a good enough reason to fuck over the weakest class in this game with WAD and inaccurate non-code fixes. Make rogue invis a % based on mob level, skill level, rogue level, and mob type.

Except for the specific cases mentioned in the "evidence".

Fix it right.

It sucks for rogues if things aren't working as intended. I'm sure people would agree to have it as you say but it sounds impossible to pull that off. How could you expect someone to go through every mob and code this correctly? There is absolutely no way to know what % each one should have. There would be way to much guessing.

Unfortunately slapping the invis bandaid on it is all you are going to get.

[Andis]

List of Creatures That Can See Through Hide

Dragons (Vox and Nagafen)
Fire Giants
Scorn Banshees
Lichs
Loathing Lichs
Evil Eyes
Huge Elemental (Lower Guk)


no where on that list do I see seb, chardok, or hole mobs listed

[NotKringe]

That list is pretty accurate.