Official Radditsu Thread!

[citizen1080]

Originally Posted by radditsu [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Wins for everyone!

I like the cut of your jib sir

[Yinikren]

Originally Posted by radditsu [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

It "gives" nobody anything. It resets non vp mobs to a baseline of fairness in competition. It removes intrinsic advantage of raid guilds (camping poopsocking, bought alts). Nobody here deserves to be given anything.

Weighted system caters to casuals. Flat point system caters to nobody. A real compromise. Due to mechanics.. tracking and batphones will exist. A council makes the system malleable. No system should cater to one side.

True, but I think it would be better for what rogean wants (more people raiding more targets more often, which is the 'everyone is happy' thing he is going for) if guilds have to pick what they engage each week. By default, if each week of raiding can only give a guild 2/3 of its current needs, then targets will change each week and raids can get different mobs.

This system currently lets the two top guilds keep every single valuable mob on lockdown for the entirety of the month before the points reset - which is kinda sorta just a little bit exactly what we have going on right now.

[radditsu]

Trying to be positive and giving out good vibes to get some sanity here. I see a ton of bias in all the proposals. I give a crap if I get another pixel. I played casual and hardcore. I made the math simple. We all win!

[Yinikren]

I think your system is like mine, and I would still much prefer it over any other system out there. We just have little nuances here and there. [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

1000000x better than that 'raid once a week' bullshit proposal.

[radditsu]

Originally Posted by Yinikren [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

True, but I think it would be better for what rogean wants (more people raiding more targets more often, which is the 'everyone is happy' thing he is going for) if guilds have to pick what they engage each week. By default, if each week of raiding can only give a guild 2/3 of its current needs, then targets will change each week and raids can get different mobs.

This system lets the two top guilds keep every single valuable mob on lockdown for the entirety of the month before the points reset - which is kinda sorta just a little bit exactly what we have going on right now.

Not necessarily. They would have to leave stuff up over the middle of the month to do so. The points each raids get can and should be negotiated.

[radditsu]

I wish I could get real data instead of stuff I semi made up. It can work

[Yinikren]

Yeah, we just need more concrete numbers I think to get a better picture. Mobs still should be weighted [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

[radditsu]

Originally Posted by Yinikren [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Yeah, we just need more concrete numbers I think to get a better picture. Mobs still should be weighted [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

If weighted it needs to be very very slightly weighted.

[Yinikren]

Weights would just be incentive to go after mobs more useful to the guild. I think I wrote somewhere that if a guild could only kill 2/3 of what it's members currently need each week, then by default target changes would occur often, but would be harder to make those target changes occur when every mob costs the same price is all.

[Sinestria]

Originally Posted by Yinikren [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Weights would just be incentive to go after mobs more useful to the guild. I think I wrote somewhere that if a guild could only kill 2/3 of what it's members currently need each week, then by default target changes would occur often, but would be harder to make those target changes occur when every mob costs the same price is all.

And it would be easier to blot out the same high priority mobs with no weight.