Selling Epics? Outrageous prices?

[Ahldagor]

tits with a time stamp, and you'll get it. you'll get the pm you're wanting

[Erydan Ouragan]

I don't get the epic obsession.

omg i'll never be able to get my epoc evryting is camp and i dont have 500k

Then fucking don't get your epic. It's not like you need it to farm giants or get a seb group.

There's only 2 classes in the game right now that "need" their epic: cleric and rogue.

Both can be MQ'ed for 60-65k and 30-35k respectively. Epics for the rest of the classes are just stat sticks with a cool look that most likely provide something you already have.

I know some people will say "but i can rootrot 5 mobs with my shaman epic!" or "signing modifier on bard epic is the ONLY item in the game that can do that!!1" or other retarded arguments but the reality is that while having it is nice, it's far from necessary.

So if getting it is too much trouble, then just don't get it.

[Kingore]

Originally Posted by Erydan Ouragan [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I know some people will say "but i can rootrot 5 mobs with my shaman epic!" or "signing modifier on bard epic is the ONLY item in the game that can do that!!1" or other retarded arguments but the reality is that while having it is nice, it's far from necessary.

You can get shammy epics for like 45k-60kish, pretty cheap also. Just saying.

[Tiggles]

If you can't get your epic then you don't need your epic.

An Epic is a luxury not a right especially something terrible like the necro epic that gets replaced 30 days into velious and is pretty useless in Kunark anyways.

The fact is if you are casual trash an epic won't make you any better, you'll still sit in KC/Seb and still be terrible.

[Erydan Ouragan]

Originally Posted by Tiggles [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

If you can't get your epic then you don't need your epic.

An Epic is a luxury not a right especially something terrible like the necro epic that gets replaced 30 days into velious and is pretty useless in Kunark anyways.

The fact is if you are casual trash an epic won't make you any better, you'll still sit in KC/Seb and still be terrible.

Tiggles confirmed bad. You clearly don't know what you're talking about. Let's look at the necro epic:

MAGIC ITEM LORE ITEM NO DROP
Slot: PRIMARY
Skill: 1H Blunt Atk Delay: 34
DMG: 22
STR: +5 STA: +10 CHA: +5 INT: +20 HP: +20 MANA: +80
SV FIRE: +5 SV DISEASE: +15 SV COLD: +5 SV MAGIC: +10 SV POISON: +15
Effect: Torment of Shadows (Must Equip, Casting Time: 9.0) at Level 50
WT: 5.0 Size: MEDIUM
Class: NEC
Race: HUM ERU DEF GNM IKS

What is Torment of Shadows?:

1 : Decrease Hitpoints by 75 per tick
2 : Decrease Movement Speed by 11% (L1) to 65% (L55)

According to my superior min/max theorycrafting abilities, i determined that having your epic as a necro improves your DPS by 0.549% while providing a extremely useful and unique ability that no other class in the game can provide: snare.

This is obviously a game-changer and once again, it shows how TMO is destroying p99 by holding on key pieces for vital epics such as this one.

#wipeitclean2014, etc etc.

[Clark]

Originally Posted by Tiggles [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

If you can't get your epic then you don't need your epic.

An Epic is a luxury not a right especially something terrible like the necro epic that gets replaced 30 days into velious and is pretty useless in Kunark anyways.

The fact is if you are casual trash an epic won't make you any better, you'll still sit in KC/Seb and still be terrible.

[Dragonsblood1987]

Originally Posted by Tiggles [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

If you can't get your epic then you don't need your epic.

An Epic is a luxury not a right especially something terrible like the necro epic that gets replaced 30 days into velious and is pretty useless in Kunark anyways.

The fact is if you are casual trash an epic won't make you any better, you'll still sit in KC/Seb and still be terrible.

Tits or GTFO fatty.

[radda]

Originally Posted by Erydan Ouragan [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

There's only 2 classes in the game right now that "need" their epic: cleric and rogue.

you had me untill this..

[Erydan Ouragan]

Originally Posted by radda [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

you had me untill this..

Thanks for your informative and astute retort.

Bard epic: Proc is a nice buff, 10% more haste that best haste song. Singing modifier: worthless. You... pump more mana with the level 32 song during downtime. Wow. If you want to provide the best stat buffs you switch instruments while meleeing anyways (which have a much better modifier), because bard melee is complete shit.

Druid epic: It's a dot, too bad druids don't have dots and need their epic to provide one.

Enchanter epic: Nice haste buff, too bad enchanters don't have haste spells i guess.

Magician epic: The epic pet is the only pet mages have, so they obviously have to get it.

Necromancer epic: A dot that snares (or a snare that dots, depending on your perspective). This is madness, as necromancers don't have any spells that even remotely look like a snare or a dot.

Monk epic: You need that haste clicky because when you're grouped, enchanters and shamans don't cast their haste spells on you.

Ranger: This one is actually good. 50% slow proc on earthcaller and best weapons available.

Shaman epic: As shamans don't have dots, they need their epic, of course.

Wizard epic: Wizards don't get self-rune spells, wiz epic clearly needed.

Warrior epic: Since the warrior epic is the only weapon in the game with an agro proc, they clearly need it.

Paladin epic: Damage and short stun proc. Paladins need their epic because they don't have stun spells that can do damage.

SK epic: A proc dot that drains hp per tick. I don't even.

So this leaves us with:

Rogue epic: Best main-hand in the game. Pure damage class, focused on doing damage, with a side of damage and a glass of damage? For 30-35k, i'll go with yes, unless there's 15/25 piercing weapons i'm not aware of in the game right now?

Cleric epic: From a grouping perspective, you don't need your epic. From a raiding perspective, you can't live without it.

Conclusion: I'm right.

[thieros]

Originally Posted by Erydan Ouragan [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Thanks for your informative and astute retort.

Bard epic: Proc is a nice buff, 10% more haste that best haste song. Singing modifier: worthless. You... pump more mana with the level 32 song during downtime. Wow. If you want to provide the best stat buffs you switch instruments while meleeing anyways (which have a much better modifier), because bard melee is complete shit.

Druid epic: It's a dot, too bad druids don't have dots and need their epic to provide one.

Enchanter epic: Nice haste buff, too bad enchanters don't have haste spells i guess.

Magician epic: The epic pet is the only pet mages have, so they obviously have to get it.

Necromancer epic: A dot that snares (or a snare that dots, depending on your perspective). This is madness, as necromancers don't have any spells that even remotely look like a snare or a dot.

Monk epic: You need that haste clicky because when you're grouped, enchanters and shamans don't cast their haste spells on you.

Ranger: This one is actually good. 50% slow proc on earthcaller and best weapons available.

Shaman epic: As shamans don't have dots, they need their epic, of course.

Wizard epic: Wizards don't get self-rune spells, wiz epic clearly needed.

Warrior epic: Since the warrior epic is the only weapon in the game with an agro proc, they clearly need it.

Paladin epic: Damage and short stun proc. Paladins need their epic because they don't have stun spells that can do damage.

SK epic: A proc dot that drains hp per tick. I don't even.

So this leaves us with:

Rogue epic: Best main-hand in the game. Pure damage class, focused on doing damage, with a side of damage and a glass of damage? For 30-35k, i'll go with yes, unless there's 15/25 piercing weapons i'm not aware of in the game right now?

Cleric epic: From a grouping perspective, you don't need your epic. From a raiding perspective, you can't live without it.

Conclusion: I'm right.

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