Building a Mosque??? WTF

[purist]

Originally Posted by Eternal-Elf [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I just have a feeling that when you put a place of worship, in the middle of a place full of people that hate it.....eventually you're going to have a problem.

What happens when you get a group of people from New York that shoot the place up or something.......all out civil war is what will happen.

I don't want that.

There are already two mosques only blocks from the proposed site; Masjid Manhattan and Masjid al-Farah. Nobody's shot those up. Also yes, most public opinion polls seem to show the bulk of Americans oppose the project, but a clear majority of Manhattanites, you know, the people who live and work near Ground Zero experienced the 9/11 attacks first hand, support it.

http://maristpoll.marist.edu/wp-cont...enter_Site.htm

[Rasterburn]

I live in New York. I know how New Yorkers think. And one of my friends... a guy whom I had known since high school, was killed on 9/11.

If those assholes try to build this nasty little mosque of theirs, then they can fully expect a street war. I can already see people gearing up for it.

[Abacab niggah]

Originally Posted by Rasterburn [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I live in New York. I know how New Yorkers think. And one of my friends... a guy whom I had known since high school, was killed on 9/11.

If those assholes try to build this nasty little mosque of theirs, then they can fully expect a street war. I can already see people gearing up for it.

This is new yorkers?

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[Rasterburn]

Come to NY and find out. [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

[jelatin]

http://www.thedailyshow.com/watch/mo...t-company-trap

[fugazi]

Originally Posted by Rasterburn [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I live in New York. I know how New Yorkers think. And one of my friends... a guy whom I had known since high school, was killed on 9/11.

If those assholes try to build this nasty little mosque of theirs, then they can fully expect a street war. I can already see people gearing up for it.

And these people were involved in killing your friend how?

[Abacab niggah]

While we are being all pro americuuuh here on the forums, I bet Remedy is Eurofagin' it up on our raidspawns like the pinko commie nazi chavs they are

[Lazortag]

This isn't even controversial. You have to be a complete xenophobe to actually think that building a mosque near ground zero isn't justified. So long as no one with authority in the mosque (such as the prayer leader) is espousing hateful ideas, they should be allowed to build it wherever they want. Even if the mosque attracts some extremists, even extremists have the right to be in sensitive areas like ground zero, so long as they aren't disturbing the peace. Anyone opposed to the building of this mosque is suggesting different rules for muslims simply because the people responsible for the tragedy on 9/11 identified as muslim.

What I find hilarious is that anyone concerned with Islamic extremism should be in favor of letting them build the mosque, because all this "movement" (which, need I remind you, is being headed by the one and only Sarah Palin) is going to accomplish is making muslims feel insulted and resentful towards the US.

By law, nothing prohibits them from building the mosque, so please someone give me a good reason why an exception to the law should be made in this case? And I mean a *good* reason, not some vague ignorant comment about how muslims are backward or inherently extremist.

[Erasong]

Originally Posted by fastboy21 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

the problem is that they aren't misquoting the qu'ran. american islam IS a very different culture than the islam of the middle east. islam in its simplest form is a very passive religion about personal relationship with god in america. in the middle east those relationships are extended outward towards others. the problem is that the qu'ran can be read both ways, and (without having to misquote it) you can very easily read the qu'ran as a violent text.

i don't hate american islam...but, when someone tells you that muslim jidhadists in the middle east are misreading the qur'an they are full of shit. they aren't misreading it...go read the surah of the sword, for example, and tell me otherwise:

"But when the forbidden months are past, then fight and slay the Pagans wherever ye find them, and seize them, beleaguer them, and lie in wait for them in every stratagem (of war)....." Surah 9:5

that isn't a misquote...MAYBE it isn't supposed to be taken literally in our times, but it isn't a misquote. there are many many verses that support this, too many in my opinion, to pretend that it is absent from the quran.

So does the bible dude. Its all about a modern man thinking its ok to go out and kill anyway.

Samuel 15:3 Now go, attack the Amalekites and totally destroy everything that belongs to them. Do not spare them; put to death men and women, children and infants, cattle and sheep, camels and donkeys.’

Deuteronomy 20:16-17 However, in the cities of the nations the Lord your God is giving you as an inheritance, do not leave alive anything that breathes. 17 Completely destroy them—the Hittites, Amorites, Canaanites, Perizzites, Hivites and Jebusites—as the Lord your God has commanded you.

and lastly. Samuel 15:18 18 And he sent you on a mission, saying, ‘Go and completely destroy those wicked people, the Amalekites; make war on them until you have wiped them out.’

Extremists are Extremists. The religion doesnt matter. Just like a christian extremist arent really representing the bulk of christians worshippers, the same stands true for muslims. Dont go telling me there is no such thing as a christian extremist either. Northern Ireland much? Martin Dillion, Padraic Pearse. Not just individuals either, there are groups. Home grown right here in the United States. The Army of God, Concerned Christians, and just this year a group in detroit calling itself Hutaree was charged with conspiracy to use improvised explosive devices..sound familiar?

Im a native New Yorker. Have been all my life. 9/11 was a TRAGEDY, but to basically persecute or even associate this religion with the violence is un-american. Now im pretty liberal but in the words of my friends on the right, Guns dont kill people, people do.

[Erasong]

Originally Posted by Abacab *****h [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

While we are being all pro americuuuh here on the forums, I bet Remedy is Eurofagin' it up on our raidspawns like the pinko commie nazi chavs they are

i lol'ed abacab. +1