Does Hybrid Penalty (still) apply to group?

[YendorLootmonkey]

Yeah, we've tried that Dev letter. :P

http://www.project1999.org/forums/sh...ad.php?t=11384

[Virtuosos]

fine...it IS nice to have a sk and a RANGER...but no reason to add that PALADIN and that OTHER SHADOWKNIGHT...


you missed my meaning completely, i was saying that having 4 hybrids in a group is senseless, much rather have a tank hybrid and some other hybrid as dps/whatever they can offer as a class and then a monk...a rogue....some actual form of pure dps.

and hybrids, atleast us paladins and shadowknights, are exceptionally useful and well worth the penelty...the sheer amount of versitility they offer to a group goes without speaking: i wont mention the other hybrids as i have no experience with them playing-wise. to say that we ARENT worth it is senseless.

[Sethius]

Originally Posted by Virtuosos [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

fine...it IS nice to have a sk and a RANGER...but no reason to add that PALADIN and that OTHER SHADOWKNIGHT...


you missed my meaning completely, i was saying that having 4 hybrids in a group is senseless, much rather have a tank hybrid and some other hybrid as dps/whatever they can offer as a class and then a monk...a rogue....some actual form of pure dps.

and hybrids, atleast us paladins and shadowknights, are exceptionally useful and well worth the penelty...the sheer amount of versitility they offer to a group goes without speaking: i wont mention the other hybrids as i have no experience with them playing-wise. to say that we ARENT worth it is senseless.

Not adding the Paladin and that other Shadowknight is not about them being hybrids, it's about them being tanks. You don't need 3 tanks in the group...

As for a bard or ranger, I think they are useful and deserve to be added to the group if their type of usefulness is required/helpful (don't knock the rangers, well played they are useful). I don't play either of those classes, but I would not turn them down because of some penalty. I just want to level and have fun, and if I level slowly, that's more time for me to enjoy the fun EQ offers.

[Virtuosos]

as i have stated, i group with whoever is needing exp and fits with the group...i wont have 3 clerics in a group...2 is questionable as well.

and having 3 tanks really isnt that bad...when i was leveling in sol b, we had a bitching group of a warrior sk paladin cleric monk chanter. it went extremely smoothly, loved it..


hm, now come to think of it...i honestly do not think i have grouped with a ranger more than 5 times from 1 to 50 (Excluding raids)....there just really isnt that many of them :/

[Malinrol]

... Epic ownage at the highest levels...

[Lagaidh]

It's odd that I've been touting the same "just fecking play" philosophy for years as Virtuosos trumpeted in this thread. It must be because we are the best race/class in the game: DWF PAL.

As I used to say in live after moments of particular lucidity: "Trust the dwarf. He knows things."

I was a bit put off over the weekend to begin hearing folks in my own guild of old friends from live that I've know for years begin the discussion over whether or not to include hybrids in pugs.

Very put off...

Know your class. Play the game. That's all. That really is all... Why do we keep this drama going on the boards (and in /gu chat apparently)?

It's a non issue unless you're dead set on measuring your veiny e-peen against the heap of pixels standing next to you.

Just.
Feckin'
PLAY!

[yaeger]

Because it's all fooked up and makes no sense, that's why it's always brought up over and over again by the community.

This..

Penalties, in any form, should not be shared with the group. Players know that no one class is immensely more powerful/valuable than another, and as such it is not fair to ask them to share a burden. If classes with penalties were really more powerful or valuable than the other classes, then it might be right, but that isn't the case. Furthermore, sharing of penalties causes people to reject potential group members on the basis of them "sucking" too much experience.

[Ploppy]

I don't have a level 50 and I'm fine with splitting the exp penalty with anyone that's fun to group with. No use crying about it. You said yourself they didn't change it till after Velious and this is a classic server

[Shannacore]

Originally Posted by Ploppy [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I don't have a level 50 and I'm fine with splitting the exp penalty with anyone that's fun to group with. No use crying about it. You said yourself they didn't change it till after Velious and this is a classic server

I AM FUN TO GROUP WITH, GROUP WITH ME.

[Dantes]

I've never paid enough attention to the exp bar to actually notice if there's even a difference when I'm grouped with a hybrid. To be honest I can't even really tell. Admit it, it's all in your head! If you are obsessing over small percentiles of experience, you need to do yourself a favor and lighten up.